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To: DoughtyOne

If 36,000 in your words are “on the average”?

I would like the real number not an average.

I wasn’t going to post to you as you requested in post 1,638.

But since you posted to me after that request , here’s my post ...

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/331/7529/1412

Are US flu death figures more PR than science?
The first 150 words of the full text of this article appear below.

US data on influenza deaths are a mess. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) acknowledges a difference between flu death and flu associated death yet uses the terms interchangeably. Additionally, there are significant statistical incompatibilities between official estimates and national vital statistics data. Compounding these problems is a marketing of fear—a CDC communications strategy in which medical experts “predict dire outcomes” during flu seasons.

The CDC website states what has become commonly accepted and widely reported in the lay and scientific press: annually “about 36 000 [Americans] die from flu” (www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease.htm) and “influenza/pneumonia” is the seventh leading cause of death in the United States (www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm). But why are flu and pneumonia bundled together? Is the relationship so strong or unique to warrant characterising them as a single cause of death?

David Rosenthal, director of Harvard University Health Services, said, “People don’t necessarily die, per . . . [Full text of this article]

Peter Doshi, graduate student

Harvard University pdoshi@fas.harvard.edu


1,641 posted on 10/01/2009 8:02:01 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: DvdMom

Thank you DvdMom. I respect your logic on the response to me or not on this one.

If you thoughts on the number of influenza deaths in the United States are realistic (and I understood you correctly), then about 1250 deaths per year are due to influenza in the United States.

That’s less than one death per hospital in the United States, due to influenza. And then there are the retirement homes, the folks who stay at home, and others.

Look, I’m not wedded to 36,000 per year, but folks you have to realize the belief that less than one person per hospital per year dies of influenza, is bizarre.

One of us is a moonbat here. I’m comfortable with you folks thinking I’m the one. I just want others to see a logical objection to your conclusions.


1,643 posted on 10/01/2009 8:09:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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