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1 posted on 06/23/2009 8:52:45 AM PDT by greatdefender
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To: greatdefender

And they wonder why New York is in such a financial crisis.....


2 posted on 06/23/2009 8:55:18 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012......."GIVE ESTROGEN A CHANCE!!!!")
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To: greatdefender

And people doubt that liberalism works. Silly, aren’t they?


3 posted on 06/23/2009 8:56:25 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: greatdefender
Gotta love unions.........not.

Seriously, I think I had rather buy something foreign made than buy the equivalent USA union made product. My justification is that bho would not be president today, had not the unions supported him.

I am beginning to think unions are anti-American.
This is a vent......

4 posted on 06/23/2009 8:59:10 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: greatdefender

thats a bogus headline.

the NYC Teachers pretty much ALL do nothing.


5 posted on 06/23/2009 8:59:14 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: greatdefender
The unions are destroying this country:

Alabama Teacher Who Had Sex With Student Paid While In Prison

7 posted on 06/23/2009 9:00:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: greatdefender

Maybe if we paid more of them to do nothing...our kids would
be smarter.


8 posted on 06/23/2009 9:04:26 AM PDT by skully (Our hottest chick is Sarah; theirs is Barney Frank)
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To: greatdefender

Sounds like there are also some administrators who need to go to their own rubber room (or just plain old fired in short order)!


9 posted on 06/23/2009 9:07:44 AM PDT by Kozel89
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To: greatdefender

This brought to you by our wonderful government. The same government about to take over health care.

I am already pissed off as it is. I pay for our three children to go to parochial school and I still have to pay the stupid school tax.

This is NUTS!


10 posted on 06/23/2009 9:10:54 AM PDT by quesera (We are so screwed!!)
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12 posted on 06/23/2009 9:43:47 AM PDT by shag377 (Illegitimis nil carborundum sunt!)
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"It's sort of peaceful knowing that you're going to work to do nothing," he said.

"It's sort of peaceful knowing that you're going to work to do nothing," he said.

Fixed it. You are not "going to work" if you plan "to do nothing."

Sounds like the rooms at the Auto Companies where "workers" go to spend all day not working.

14 posted on 06/23/2009 10:23:46 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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Fiddling while Rome burns...


17 posted on 06/23/2009 11:22:08 AM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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ping


19 posted on 06/23/2009 11:34:03 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: greatdefender

And even with this story, nothing’s going to happen to any of these people.

New York is a liberal Democrat state - so the people of New York will smile and pay their taxes...


20 posted on 06/23/2009 11:41:59 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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This has been the case for years now. Nothing new here except the numbers have probably gotten larger.

What is up is down, move on now.


21 posted on 06/23/2009 11:59:44 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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I have a friend who was in one of these rubber rooms. He had a disagreement with an assistant principal on how he did things in the class room. While I cannot say if his his approach to teaching is correct, having not sat through one of his classes, I do know the man. He loved teaching very much and is a person of good character.

The problem is that what he was accused of, (incompetence) happened 3 years ago. This is a man with a Masters Degree in education. From what I could tell, the entire process is a “Kangaroo Court” of sorts. Once accused, it takes years before a hearing comes up and when it does, the supposed infraction happened so long ago, that the person accused can no longer mount a credible defense. No person sent there has ever been cleared of charges, ever! They are either dismissed, told to pay a fine or kept waiting so long for a hearing that their teaching licenses expire.

My opinion is that some innocent people are used as sacrificial lambs on the alter of tenure. The local teachers union won’t even provide for a practical defense for these people.


33 posted on 06/23/2009 2:48:54 PM PDT by bigemmk
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Hundreds of New York City public school teachers accused of offenses ranging from insubordination to sexual misconduct are being paid their full salaries to sit around all day playing Scrabble, surfing the Internet or just staring at the wall, if that's what they want to do. Because their union contract makes it extremely difficult to fire them, the teachers have been banished by the school system to its "rubber rooms" -- off-campus office space where they wait months, even years, for their disciplinary hearings.
So IOW, nothing much changed in their careers.
35 posted on 06/23/2009 2:52:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: greatdefender

John Stossel covered this during a report on the nations schools. I worked for over 10 years for the personnel director at a school district. NEVER was a teacher fired while I worked there.


37 posted on 06/23/2009 2:57:02 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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"Because their union contract makes it extremely difficult to fire them, the teachers have been banished by the school system to its "rubber rooms" — off-campus office space where they wait months, even years, for their disciplinary hearings. The 700 or so teachers can practice yoga, work on their novels, paint portraits of their colleagues — pretty much anything but school work.

Do they accept Harvard graduates into this program?
We may have an ideal candidate for the rubber room...

39 posted on 06/23/2009 3:19:47 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Excerpt:
“Once their hearings are over, they are either sent back to the classroom or fired. But because their cases are heard by 23 arbitrators who work only five days a month, stints of two or three years in a rubber room are common, and some teachers have been there for five or six.”
..........................................................

That sounds typical for a government job...we should let the government run everything. Hey how about health-care, banking and the auto industry?

42 posted on 06/24/2009 5:50:40 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: greatdefender

With More Money ($22K/student), (New York) City Schools Added Jobs

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2283256/posts

It’s for the Chiiiillldrun (and the union)


45 posted on 07/01/2009 8:28:15 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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