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To: WOSG

To be perfectly honest, those issues now find us in the minority.

And really, something nobody looks at is the impact the Neo-Cons had on our movement

Fi-cons have been pushed to the corner and forgotten about.


22 posted on 06/23/2009 8:53:19 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32
To be perfectly honest, those issues now find us in the minority.

False.

Run real conservatives...and nuke the State Media at the same time...and they would win.

25 posted on 06/23/2009 9:23:42 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: MadIsh32

“Fi-cons have been pushed to the corner and forgotten about.”

What are you talking about? Talk radio is nothing but financial conservatism these days. It’s boring as blazes.

The moderates want to surrender the whole social playing field to the Democrats.


27 posted on 06/23/2009 12:39:50 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: MadIsh32

“To be perfectly honest, those issues now find us in the minority.”

What issues? Life/abortion, where for the first time more people are poling a prolife than prochoice?
Shool choice, supported by most people?
Gay marriage, still opposed by most Americans?

“And really, something nobody looks at is the impact the Neo-Cons had on our movement”

Um, lots of people have used the ‘neo-con’ a foil for blame.
I tend to accuse the RINOs.

“Fi-cons have been pushed to the corner and forgotten about.”

Um, your proposal to let moderates run is a proposal to do exactly that - Ignore the fiscal conservatives. SO to me, you sound a bit confused and are taking potshots randomly at those who you think are to blame, using different labels ... which may or may not fit.

IMHO: You need to run real full-bore fiscal conservatives in some of these blue states to get the juices flowing again: Tax cuts, tort reform, school choice, welfare reform, and defense of traditional marriage are not unpopular items.

The problem with the moderate-GOPers is that they run on NOTHING except a bit of “Demo-lite” stuff. They dont stand up on moral issues and they dont stand up on fiscal issues, except on the margins. It’s too weak to get conservative voters who make up a plurality of voters EVEN IN BLUE STATES to get excited.

We need a big tent, but that big tent includes conservatives.
JMHO.


33 posted on 06/24/2009 3:51:04 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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