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Court to tackle clarity of Miranda warnings again (felon let go because 'he didn't know')
Yahoo ^ | 6/22/09 | Michael J. Sniffen

Posted on 06/22/2009 7:08:41 PM PDT by Libloather

Court to tackle clarity of Miranda warnings again
By Michael J. Sniffen, Associated Press Writer
Mon Jun 22, 5:36 pm ET

WASHINGTON – "You have the right to remain silent." Most people only hear those words while watching cop shows on TV. They usually zone out for the rest of the now familiar Miranda warning to people under arrest.

But in the real world, the Supreme Court is still listening to the words that follow. It agreed Monday to hear another case over just how explicit that phrasing must be.

In its landmark 1966 Miranda v. Arizona ruling, the high court set out to protect the constitutional right of people not to incriminate themselves once in custody. They dealt a blow to those officers who bullied or beat false confessions out of suspects. The justices said the police have to tell defendants they can have a lawyer represent them, even if they can't afford one.

**SNIP**

Along the way, the justices made clear they don't insist that every police officer use precisely the same words, so long as the important details are clear, even to people with no legal training or little or no schooling.

Monday they agreed to examine what the Tampa, Fla., police told Kevin Dewayne Powell after his arrest on Aug. 10, 2004. Powell was convicted of possessing a firearm. As a convicted felon, he wasn't allowed to have one. Powell told Tampa officer Salvatore Augeri he bought the weapon "off the street" for $150 for his protection.

But the Florida Supreme Court overturned the conviction on grounds the Tampa police didn't adequately convey to Powell that he was allowed to have a lawyer with him during questioning.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: court; docket; florida; lawsuit; miranda; ruling; scotus; supreme
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Floriduh all over again...
1 posted on 06/22/2009 7:08:42 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
When the police arrest a citizen, they are supposed to read them their Miranda rights. Most do not. How they can get a conviction without informing someone of their rights is a violation of the law all in itself. The Court upheld the law the way it was supposed to.

Let it be a lesson to us all: if you or I were being arrested on trumped-up charges, be aware that it is your Constitutional right not to have to say a word. It would be advisable to say nothing to any governmental authority without an attorney present.

2 posted on 06/22/2009 7:15:19 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: Libloather

Leftists love legislation from the bench.


3 posted on 06/22/2009 7:16:37 PM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: pray4liberty
The Court upheld the law the way it was supposed to.

The required Miranda Right statement was invented out of thin air by the court.

4 posted on 06/22/2009 7:17:59 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Congrats to Malkin, Crosby, Staal, Fleury, and the rest of the Pens.)
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To: Libloather
Ernesto Arturo Miranda (March 9, 1941 – January 31, 1976)

On January 31, 1976, Miranda participated in a card game at the La Amapola Bar. A violent fight broke out and Miranda received a mortal knife wound; he was pronounced dead on arrival at Good Samaritan Hospital. He was 34 years old.

Had he been in jail where he belonged, he might still be alive today.

5 posted on 06/22/2009 7:18:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out? Are you scared yet?)
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To: Hacksaw

Origin of Miranda: http://www.usconstitution.net/miranda.html


6 posted on 06/22/2009 7:19:59 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: pray4liberty
How they can get a conviction without informing someone of their rights is a violation of the law all in itself.

Would not matter to me if I was on the jury.

7 posted on 06/22/2009 7:20:35 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Had he been in jail where he belonged, he might still be alive today.

Wonder if the read him his Miranda rites?

8 posted on 06/22/2009 7:22:24 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Had he been in jail where he belonged, he might still be alive today.

Wonder if they read him his Miranda rites?

9 posted on 06/22/2009 7:23:21 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: FlingWingFlyer

In Obamaworld, I still want to be informed of my rights. If we don’t know our rights, we don’t have any. Doesn’t matter if you’re guilty as sin or innocent. We are supposed to have a system of being presumed innocent until proven guilty in a Court of law, but in Obamaworld, it may well turn out to be the other way around.


10 posted on 06/22/2009 7:23:26 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Would not matter to me if I was on the jury.

It would matter to you if you were the accused.

11 posted on 06/22/2009 7:24:28 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: pray4liberty
"When the police arrest a citizen, they are supposed to read them their Miranda rights."

That's not entirely correct. Police arrest people on outstanding warrants all the time and don't read them their rights. The officer merely transports the person to the jail and has no further involvement.

12 posted on 06/22/2009 7:28:08 PM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Enterprise

Unfortunately our legal system, of which I was a part of for many years, has turned into a high-tech railroading with the guilty going free and the innocent paying the price. It’s messed up.


13 posted on 06/22/2009 7:33:54 PM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.foundersvalues.com/)
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To: pray4liberty; The_Media_never_lie
It would matter to you if you were the accused.

I can't speak for the other poster but that sure doesn't apply to me, the Miranda decision was insane, it was part of that madness that took over America during those decades.

14 posted on 06/22/2009 7:36:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

Best thing is to shut up when arrested. With or without Miranda, you are not required to speak.


15 posted on 06/22/2009 7:41:03 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
It might matter to you if you were wrongly sitting int he defendent's seat, or if it was your son or daughter facing interrogation. We can sometimes be so anti-crime here that we forget Miranda rights are to protect the innocent by forcing the police to do things RIGHT. How can anyone be against that. John Jay said, "I would prefer to see 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man go to prison." We have a blood lust in this country that NO ONE should ever escape.

Do you think every arrestee is guilty? Do you think every defendant is a scumbag? Then you need to think again. What good is the Constitution if your rights are not upheld.

16 posted on 06/22/2009 7:41:08 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Enterprise

Police only read Miranda warnings if they intend to question the suspect and need that information to be admissible. If they don’t intend to question them the warnings are unnecessary.


17 posted on 06/22/2009 7:42:51 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: ansel12

You somehow think because you don’t commit crimes you will never be in the chair of the accused? PLENTY of innocent people find themselves in that chair. God bless you if you never do, but if you do, I hope you have someone that respects your rights and doesn’t act like you are a scumbag for being accused. Rights protect the innocent. On occasion guilty men benefit too but the innocent depend on rights.


18 posted on 06/22/2009 7:45:35 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: politicalmerc

You sure make some stupid assumptions about me.


19 posted on 06/22/2009 7:48:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: Hacksaw
The required Miranda Right statement was invented out of thin air by the court.

Wrong, Fifth Amendment , try reading it some time. The court will side with the man and toss the verdict. Same as the last case but more to the point. I think they will drive home the do not question at all.

20 posted on 06/22/2009 7:58:46 PM PDT by org.whodat
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