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Can Third Temple be built without destroying Dome of the Rock?...
Jerusalem Post ^ | June 21st, 2009

Posted on 06/22/2009 1:48:53 PM PDT by TaraP

A new Jewish interfaith initiative launched last week argues building the Third Jewish Temple in Jerusalem would not necessitate the destruction of the Dome of the Rock.

"God's Holy Mountain Vision" project hopes to defuse religious strife by showing that Jews' end-of-days vision could harmoniously accommodate Islam's present architectural hegemony on the Temple Mount.

This vision of religious shrines in peaceful proximity can transform the Temple Mount from a place of contention to its original sacred role as a place of worship shared by Jews, Muslims and Christians," said Yoav Frankel, director of the initiative.

The Interfaith Encounter Association at the Mishkenot Sha'ananim's Konrad Adenauer Conference Center in Jerusalem is sponsoring the program, which includes interfaith study and other educational projects.

According to Islamic tradition, the Dome of the Rock, built in 691, marks the spot where Muhammed ascended to Heaven.

But according to Jewish tradition, Mount Moriah, now under the Dome of the Rock, is where the Temple's Holy of Holies was situated

Until now Jewish tradition has assumed that destruction of the Dome of the Rock was a precondition for the building of the third and last Temple.

However, in an article that appeared in 2007 in Tehumin, an influential journal of Jewish law, Frankel, a young scholar, presented a different option.

His main argument is that Jewish doctrine regarding the rebuilding of the Temple emphasizes the role of a prophet.

This prophet would have extraordinary authority, including the discretion to specify the Temple's precise location, regardless of any diverging Jewish traditions.

Frankel considers the scenario of a holy revelation given to an authentic prophet that the Temple be rebuilt on the current or an extended Temple Mount in peaceful proximity to the dome and other houses of prayer such as the Aksa Mosque and nearby Christian shrines.

However, both Muslims and Jews have expressed opposition to the initiative.

Sheikh Abdulla Nimar Darwish, founder of the Islamic Movement in Israel, said it was pointless to talk about what would happen when the mahdi, the Muslim equivalent of the messiah, would reveal himself.

"Why are we taking upon ourselves the responsibility to decide such things?" Darwish said in a telephone interview with The Jerusalem Post. "Even Jews believe that it is prohibited to rebuild the Temple until the messiah comes. So what is there to talk about.

"The mahdi will decide whether or not to rebuild the Temple. If he decides that it should be rebuilt, I will go out to the Temple Mount and help carry the rocks."

Darwish warned against any attempt to rebuild the Temple before the coming of the mahdi.

"As long as there is a Muslim alive, no Jewish Temple will be built on Al-Haram Al-Sharif [the Temple Mount]. The status quo must be maintained, otherwise there will be bloodshed."

In contrast, Baruch Ben-Yosef, chairman of the Movement to Restore the Temple, made it clear that the Temple had to be built where the Dome of the Rock presently stands.

"Anybody who says anything else simply does not know what he is talking about," he said. "A prophet does not have the power to change the law which explicitly states the location of the Temple."

Ben-Yosef also rejected the idea that rebuilding of the Temple had to be done by a prophet.

"All you need is a Sanhedrin," he said.

Mainstream Orthodox rabbis have opposed attempts to rebuild the Temple since the Mount came under Israeli control in 1967.

The Chief Rabbinate of Israel even issued a decree prohibiting Jews from entering the area due to ritual purity issues.

However, several grassroots organizations such as the Movement to Restore the Temple, and maverick rabbis, including Rabbi Israel Ariel, head of the capital's Temple Institute and a leading member of the revived Sanhedrin led by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, have called to take steps to renew the sacrifices on the Temple Mount and rebuild the Temple.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: holyland; prophecy; templemount
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To: BigFinn
Did you know that blasphemous sayings about the God of Israel are written all around it's exterior in Arabic?

Really? But He's the same God! How can the Mooselimbs write bad things about the Hebrew God, when they acknowledge He is their God, too (through Ishmael)?

41 posted on 06/22/2009 3:27:58 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: F15Eagle; Jewbacca

1967 is my guess too. The Dome of the Crock should have been leveled. That is what Muslims do


46 posted on 06/22/2009 3:45:34 PM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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To: TaraP
But according to Jewish tradition, Mount Moriah, now under the Dome of the Rock, is where the Temple's Holy of Holies was situated

Muslims very deliberately build mosques on top of holy sites of other religions, as a sign of domination.

47 posted on 06/22/2009 3:47:15 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: F15Eagle

Mecca/Medina get obliterated in retaliation and the whole world wakes up and realize the Jews have done them a great favor by ending Islam


49 posted on 06/22/2009 3:57:04 PM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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To: jeffc
This is the arabic writing around the Dome. The muslim caliphate who built the Dome had these written around it to mark his territory and to counter the beauty of the church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

"He [God} taketh not unto himself a son, and none can be a partner to His kingdom." "Believe then in God and His prophets and do not say that there are three gods." "It is not for God to take unto Himself a son, far be it from Him."

The Bible tells you how to identify the antichrist...

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

An old FR post... "Hate Speech in Stone."

Joel Rosenburg has it right. This is the Epicenter that will cause the final war. It's all about the Temple Mount. It started there, it will end there.

50 posted on 06/22/2009 3:58:40 PM PDT by BigFinn (Islam IS what Islam DOES.)
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To: dennisw; F15Eagle
It is June 1967.


51 posted on 06/22/2009 3:58:45 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: PapaBear3625

The mosque is a barely-reconstructed Byzantine Church, constructed on the site of the Temple.

A mosque built AFTER mohammed was dead, BTW, as Jerusalem was then-occupied by Christians -— showing the whole “farthest” mosque bit to be a complete fabrication.


52 posted on 06/22/2009 4:01:59 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: BigFinn
Ahh! So it's really about Jesus and the Trinity, stuff like that, huh?

Strange, how the Muslims build things over other people's temples and shrines, but then they say that it's war if you try to remove their stuff.

55 posted on 06/22/2009 4:15:44 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: F15Eagle

Amen, brother!


56 posted on 06/22/2009 5:26:17 PM PDT by BigFinn (Islam IS what Islam DOES.)
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To: TaraP

Thx.

Will check it out.


57 posted on 06/22/2009 6:29:52 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP

Hmmmmm . . .

The thicken plots.


58 posted on 06/22/2009 6:31:54 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP

Thanks for the ping!


59 posted on 06/22/2009 9:43:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jewbacca

2. There is very good argument that the 1st Temple was a different location (my opinion).
***I agree. I first ran across this evidence in Hal Lindsey’s “A Prophetic Walk Through the Holy Land”. In 1989 there was a riot at the temple mount and 19 jews were killed by Palestinians because the jews were laying down the cornerstones of the foundation of the Temple of Solomon.


60 posted on 06/22/2009 10:22:22 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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