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Arizona killings highlight risk of fringe activists
Austin American Statesman ^ | 6.20.2009 | Jonathan J. Cooper

Posted on 06/20/2009 6:40:31 AM PDT by wolfcreek

PHOENIX — The tagline on Shawna Forde's anti-illegal immigration Web site says her group was "doing the job our government won't do." They wanted to patrol the border, but her small band of activists needed money to do it.

So, authorities say, Forde and two men dressed up as Border Patrol agents and broke into the southern Arizona home of a man they thought was a drug dealer, hunting for money or drugs to sell. They found neither, but killed the man and his 9-year-old daughter.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drugs; fringe; illegals; shawnaforde
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Linking legit border groups to fringe idiots. Typical.

Can't help but think a lot this started with President Bush's *vigilante* comment.

1 posted on 06/20/2009 6:40:31 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: AuntB; SwinneySwitch; Travis McGee

Border ping!


2 posted on 06/20/2009 6:41:52 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: wolfcreek
Linking legit border groups to fringe idiots. Typical.

Standard liberal slim tactic - the same as linking the Holocaust Museum killer to Rush and conservatives. Or Tiller's killer to mainstream pro-life groups. It's what you do when you cannot make a coherent defense of your own positions - instead, you try to tear down those who can.

3 posted on 06/20/2009 6:43:47 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: wolfcreek
Forde and two men dressed up as Border Patrol agents and broke into the southern Arizona home of a man they thought was a drug dealer, hunting for money or drugs to sell.

So it had nothing at all to do with opposition to illegal immigration. It was about drugs and money.
4 posted on 06/20/2009 6:45:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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Linking legit border groups to fringe idiots. Typical.

Associated Press did not create the group and give it a name that looks like Simcox's. She named her group of brigands Minutemen American Defense. The fact that this woman is a mercenary makes no difference: she made the link.

"We knew that Shawna Forde was not just an unsavory character but pretty unbalanced as well," said Chris Simcox, the founder of one of the original border watch groups, the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

5 posted on 06/20/2009 6:51:32 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: wolfcreek
Her organization says the number of hate groups nationwide has risen 54 percent since 2000, fueled by opposition to Hispanic immigration and, more recently, by the election of the nation's first black president and the economic downturn.

Indisputable, unimpeachable, irreproachable facts.

6 posted on 06/20/2009 6:52:31 AM PDT by Free State Four
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To: wolfcreek

My view is the “fringe idiots” are a simple product of the Federal Government’s total failure to protect our borders.

Really fries my butt to know that thousands of people flood across our borders, and leech off us with virtually no problem and I have to go through 14 kinds of hell and great expense to be able to bring my legitimate foreign wife here. Of course she is well educated, speaks 4 languages fluently and would vote conservative which explains a lot.


7 posted on 06/20/2009 6:54:22 AM PDT by flash2368 (Scary Times)
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To: 1rudeboy

This chick did.

“Heidi Beirich, research director at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups.

“We figured for a long time that we were going to get violence out of this movement,” she said.”

All the same to her.


8 posted on 06/20/2009 6:55:21 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: flash2368

And, while the FBI snoozes, ACORN steals elections and manages our census.


9 posted on 06/20/2009 6:59:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: wolfcreek

The Austin unAmerican Statesman is the liberal rag that has been up for sale since last year and no one cares to buy it. This is a typical hatchet job on border enforcement because Austin is also a “sanctuary city” and is run by Leftists who want illegals to be able to vote Democrat in Texas elections.
Austin is a blight on the state of Texas, and the capitol ought to be moved to a site more representative of Texans.


10 posted on 06/20/2009 7:00:44 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: wolfcreek

I remember at the very start of the civilian patrol movement that there were some “neonazis” who went to the SPLC and announced that they were with the minutemen. That was such a pathetic attempt that the media didn’t even bother to give it much more than a cursory mention.

The ACLU even said that they would attempt to infiltrate the minutemen for the purpose of discrediting them.


11 posted on 06/20/2009 7:01:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: wolfcreek
Yes, and that is to be expected of the SPLC--but that was a subsequent event. I'll wager that Forde also had a website with a "Donate Now" button.

In any case, I was pleased to see AP include the following:

"Some are using the movement to promote their own bigoted, racist ideology," said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino. "But I want to be clear: That's not everyone in the movement, and it poses a real problem."

12 posted on 06/20/2009 7:01:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: flash2368

That’s what gets me. I’m not “anti-immigration” but “pro legal-immigration.” If we really care about immigrants, we would be bending over backwards to ensure those who follow the correct process are amply rewarded and favored over the illegals.

I am so sorry for you and your wife. What a travesty of justice!


13 posted on 06/20/2009 7:02:33 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: kittymyrib

Dinosaurs they are.


14 posted on 06/20/2009 7:02:46 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Free State Four

I don’t know about “Indisputable, unimpeachable and irreproachable”. This is from a representative of “The Southern Poverty Law Center”.

I would have a great many questions about how these people do business, what they stand for and so on. I would not accept in advance any definition they put forth. In particular, “what defines a hate group?”

These people are part of the “Race Industry”. They earn their daily bread by making race an issue whether race is an issue or not. They go to schools, colleges and workplaces to give “Tolerance courses”.

I would say they are in bed with extortionists like the Rainbow Coalition, but I wouldn’t make that blanket statement. They are more likely business competitors, but they aren’t trying to sell customers cars.


15 posted on 06/20/2009 7:04:35 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: wolfcreek

Of course; but they won’t talk about the nutjob in the WH who is trying to change everyone’s life. Typical.


16 posted on 06/20/2009 7:04:59 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: wolfcreek

Austin-American Statesman should be your first clue...I’d use it for toilet paper but it would give me a deep red rash.


17 posted on 06/20/2009 7:06:11 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: wolfcreek
Forde and two men dressed up as Border Patrol agents and broke into the southern Arizona home of a man they thought was a drug dealer, hunting for money or drugs to sell. They found neither, but killed the man and his 9-year-old daughter

If they'd dressed up as BATF agents or local SWAT members no one would ever have known the difference.

18 posted on 06/20/2009 7:08:14 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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“It was about drugs and money.”

Hmmmmm. Could it be that she’s just a drug dealer with a new angle? Being down “patrolling the border” might be a just a ruse to cover smuggling? I don’t really know, the thought just occurred to me.


19 posted on 06/20/2009 7:13:20 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Free State Four

“Her organization says the number of hate groups nationwide has risen 54 percent since 2000, fueled by opposition to Hispanic immigration and, more recently, by the election of the nation’s first black president and the economic downturn.

Indisputable, unimpeachable, irreproachable facts. “

Huh? The only indisputable, unimpeachable, irreproachable fact in the statement is this part: “Her organization says”. The rest is completely disputable, impeachable and reproachable!


20 posted on 06/20/2009 7:13:47 AM PDT by Castigar
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