Posted on 06/19/2009 9:08:57 PM PDT by mfnorman
Just breaking on BNO News. No story to link too at this time.
The New York Public Employees Association has already file suit against Apple twice. Both were tossed out because they could not demonstrate that they had lost in value because of what they were suing about. They've demonstrated a willingness to do so before, what would stop them from doing it again?
Lawsuits over backdating?
That, and they also sued over Steve Jobs and Apple not announcing to the shareholders that he had had Pancreatic Cancer until 9 months after his surgery back in 2003. The point is that there are people, stockholders, who are willing to sue over perceived injuries relating to lack of timely reporting of information that may have an effect on the value of the stock.
OK//
We shall see
He got one at Pitt University Hospital like 2 weeks later - then hospital got like a $10M donation from Bill ...
Gawd, I loved the guy - he was a legend in the industry, but I never agreed with this - he shoulda had to wait like everyone else ...
I knew the technician that maintained the telecommunications equipment for a large number of years at the Heritage Classic, both on the links and at Hilton Head, very well. Robert was always an outgoing and outspoken person that kept everyone upbeat while waiting like the Maytag repairman for anything to go wrong with our service. One day he was in the hospitality tent telling some Sales Department volunteers the joke that had quickly spread through all of Operations that there was a grade two Technician missing from the Chicago terminal the day after Bill McGowen's operation. With his back to the door, Robert didn't see the acting CEO V. Orville Wright walk in while he was talking. The old man got a big kick out of it and said he would tell Bill when he got back to Georgetown.
Why ? You are saying that McGowan should wait behind a high school drop out working at 7-11 just because the drop out got there first ?
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Thats the way they set it up - since they did, you oughta play by the rules ...
Hearts don’t explode....they tear or get a bad leak or fibrillate or their little arteries get clogged either by diet, genetics or anatomy
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Was being facetious - point being that it was ironic that he changed his lifestyle (was previously a hard drinker and smoker), ends up dying during daily physical therapy ordered by his docs ...
You said — Because when you buy Apple you buy Steve Jobs.
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Actually, when I buy Apple, I buy Macbook, iPod and iPhone...
I suspect that’s also what a majority of people do, too (which is what keeps Apple in business, doncha know... LOL...)
You said — How odd! I just read a story of some guy who woke up in the bathtub of his Vegas hotel room to find someone had cut out his liver........
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Ahhh..., next there will be a “breaking story” about where Jobs got his liver... LOL...
I'm sorry, but you could not possibly be more wrong. Organs are offered regionally, then in ever widening circles until they are either taken and transplanted, or the time frame for transplantation is exhausted, with the exception of kidneys, which allow for a perfect match outside the region being chosen above regional preferences.
Where a patient lives can have everything to do with whether/when they get a transplant.
Some regions have much lower waits, and people actually do sometimes move to other regions to increase their chances of success.
Here is the story of one family who did just that: Mother, daughter head to Florida in search of liver transplant (^)
Swordmaker wrote: The waiting lists are not because of lack of facilities, they exist because of the lack of viable liver donors. Are Tennesseans somehow dropping like flies or more likely to donate? I doubt it, strongly. Tennessee should have the same waiting period as any other state... otherwise everyone seeking a liver transplant would be waiting in Tennessee.
I'm sorry, but you are wrong again. If there isn't a trained person standing by to gently ask family members to donate their deceased loved one's organs at the time of death, the chances of the family volunteering the organs is low. Those trained people usually work for OPOs (organ procurement organizationS). States without many/any procurement organizations have much longer waiting lists. The story I quoted above explains the difference between Massachusetts and Florida (where that family came from and had moved to). Florida has 4 times as many OPO centers:
FTA: However, Massachusetts only has one organ procurement organization (OPO) to nine transplant centers, while Florida has four OPOs to 10 transplant centers. The OPOs become involved when a patient is identified as brain dead — organs need to come from people whose hearts are still beating — and are therefore potential donors. The organization then coordinates between the potential donor’s family, the transplant center and the waiting transplant candidate.
More from United Network for Organ Sharing (^)
"Organs are first offered to patients within the area in which they were donated* before being offered to other parts of the country in order to:
*With the exception of perfectly matched donor kidneys.
This issue is very near to me, as I've had two people close to me face transplants, one (a friend) who only last Wednesday received a liver due to an underlying disease. He was on the list a little under 90 days on the east coast before finding a perfect match, and is doing very well. Prayers appreciated.
Larry381, I pinged you because I thought it might be relevant. Prayers for your wife. We saw a true miracle this past week and will be praying every day that your wife receives hers soon.
So Tennesseans are dropping like flies and their loved ones are buttonholed by Organ procurers at a rate more than SIX TIMES BETTER than the rest of the country? I still doubt that.
Nature abhors a vacuum. If the odds were so much better of getting to the top of the Tennessee list, then every person desperate for a Liver would be IN TENNESSEE yesterday on the list. Why, when it's a case of life and death, would anyone decide to stay put on the chance they will survive the 306 days until their name gets to the top of the list. Air fare to Memphis and renting an apartment is a lot cheaper than a funeral.
As I said before, Nature and economics abhor a vacuum... and there must be a very loud sucking noise coming from Tennessee.
As I said, I may be wrong. I had a very good friend who died shortly after falling into an empty swimming pool and hitting her head. Her Liver was flown from California to the East Coast for transplant into some one back there.
Just getting the liver isn't the only issue. The treatment before and after is critical to success. Having seen someone in end-stage liver failure, they aren't just sitting around waiting for an organ to show up. They are often fighting the results of what got them there, including fluid buildup, copious esophageal &/or gastric bleeding, nutritional issues, pain which can't easily be addressed, etc.
Florida may be the route to a liver in the shortest period of time, but Tennessee may have better statistical outcomes for those who actually get livers. Or they may have an expert in whatever precipitated Mr. Jobs' need for a liver.
Although it's not that easy to pick up and move, some people do actually do it. Several things have to be in place, though:
Having insurance which either has coverage in the new place, or is willing to cover a major (250K at the low end) out-of-network expense. Barring that, a person would have to be independently wealthy (like Steve Jobs) or on government assistance.
Have doctors in the new state who are willing to take them as a patient in the middle of a crisis.
Be able to show that you have family and/or some sort of support system in the new place who can help you after surgery during the recovery period, which can be long.
If the person needs an organ because of an underlying health issue, it needs to be addressed (blood sugar brought under control, drinking or drug use stopped, counseling received, etc.
The medical team giving the organ to the patient need to know that the patient will give their all to keep the organ. They need to be reliable enough to take the anti-rejection medicine on time every day, attend follow up appointments, etc.
Some people will need to undergo psychological counseling before being put on the list. Think of the stress of waiting for a cadaver organ. You're waiting for some unknown person to die.
So, there are a number of factors that work against transplant patients picking up and moving to "better" states.
It helps to have money like Steve Jobs, but even that only goes so far. Organs have to match, and he had to be healthy enough to survive the transplant.
As I said, I may be wrong. I had a very good friend who died shortly after falling into an empty swimming pool and hitting her head. Her Liver was flown from California to the East Coast for transplant into some one back there.
I'm very sorry for your loss. I know, having seen the transformative miracle of transplantation, that if I am ever in a similar situation (where my organs could help someone else), I want them donated without question.
In case this might help....it’s what my 76 yr old used to put her Hep C in remission....and still uses....along with getting a viral load test done regularly.....but, you may have already heard of this.
http://www.hepatitiscfree.com/eurocel_book.htm
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