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UK: Witches' coven claims religious persecution after church hall ban
The Telegraph ^ | 6/18/2009 | John Bingham

Posted on 06/19/2009 8:39:49 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

A coven of witches is accusing the Roman Catholic church of religious persecution after being banned from using a parish social centre for a Halloween gathering.


Sandra Davis, High Priestess at the Crystal Cauldron

Sandra Davis, the "high priestess" of Crystal Cauldron group in Stockport, Greater Manchester, said she was shocked to be told that the pagan group was not considered to be compatible with the church's "ethos".

Mrs Davis, 61, booked Our Lady's Social Club in Shaw Heath, Stockport, for the group's annual "Witches Ball" due to be held in October.

She hoped to attract up to 150 people to the social evening offering a buffet dinner and music from an Abba tribute band and selected the hall because it had disabled access.

But when she went to pay for the booking she was told by the manager that the Diocese of Shrewsbury, which owns the centre, had refused permission for the group to use it.

"It makes you think that there is still a little bit of that attitude from the past of the Catholics wanting to burn witches," she said.

"I thought we had made progress, tat we could accept other people's religious paths."

Mrs Davis, who has 11 grandchildren, gave up her former job in a forklift truck company to set up the Crystal Cauldron, where she is known as "Amethyst Selmeselene".

Based in a former post office, the 30-strong group runs a new age bookshop and sells cloaks, jewellery and medieval costumes on the internet as well as organising a children's group called "Little Crystals".

It also supports a local cat sanctuary as its designated charity.

Mrs Davis has since secured a new venue for the ball which she hopes will become an annual fixture in the town.

"It is a

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pagans; wiccans
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1 posted on 06/19/2009 8:39:49 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Cue up the Twilight Zone theme.


2 posted on 06/19/2009 8:42:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out? Are you scared yet?)
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To: bruinbirdman

Gee, Catholic Church against witchcraft? Who woulda thunk it...?


3 posted on 06/19/2009 8:43:30 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: bruinbirdman

The Church can only be expected to go so far in her compassion towards the mentally ill.


4 posted on 06/19/2009 8:46:39 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: bruinbirdman

Would any of these women be willing to lend their property to a Catholic prayer or activist group?

My guess would be no.


5 posted on 06/19/2009 8:47:11 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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To: bruinbirdman

If I walked into that room I would burst out laughing and then tell them to “rent a room at a con”.


6 posted on 06/19/2009 8:49:43 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: bruinbirdman

Note to self: Future South Park episode.

This is like Nambla complaining the Boy Scouts won’t let them use the campgrounds on Jubilee weekend.


7 posted on 06/19/2009 8:51:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Soothesayer

I’m sure the Glasgow Airport Ramada would let them rent a conference room. Just no animal blood on the carpets, please. And no live sacrifices, use a mannequin if you need to.


8 posted on 06/19/2009 8:52:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Most so-called “witches” are only in it for the cloaks, shiny things, shock value, and perceived victim status.


9 posted on 06/19/2009 8:54:06 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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To: bruinbirdman
She hoped to attract up to 150 people to the social evening offering a buffet dinner and music from an Abba tribute band...

These people are EVIL!!!

10 posted on 06/19/2009 8:54:58 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: bruinbirdman
Also, how can these women claim to be suffering "religious persecution" because they are witches? Witchcraft isn't a religion. It's something that's practiced in many different religions.
11 posted on 06/19/2009 9:01:04 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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To: bruinbirdman

I wonder if she weighs as much as a duck?


12 posted on 06/19/2009 9:01:21 PM PDT by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: bruinbirdman

The women in that picture have somehow cast a spell that destroyed all of the decent hair stylists in their community. Yikes, my eyes.


13 posted on 06/19/2009 9:04:55 PM PDT by La Lydia (.)
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To: La Lydia

A church spokesman says “how about a witch trial”?

The Salem witch trials were a series of hearings before local magistrates followed by county court trials to prosecute people accused of witchcraft in Essex, Suffolk and Middlesex counties of colonial Massachusetts, between February 1692 and May 1693. Over 150 people were arrested and imprisoned, with even more accused but not formally pursued by the authorities. The two courts convicted twenty-nine people of the capital felony of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused, fourteen women and five men, were hanged. One man (Giles Corey) who refused to enter a plea was crushed to death under heavy stones in an attempt to force him to do so. At least five more of the accused died in prison.

Despite being generally known as the “Salem” witch trials, the preliminary hearings in 1692 were conducted in a variety of towns across the province: Salem Village, Ipswich, Andover and Salem Town. The best-known trials were conducted by the Court of Oyer and Terminer in 1692 in Salem Town. All twenty-six who went to trial before this court were convicted. The four sessions of the Superior Court of Judicature in 1693, held in Salem Village, but also in Ipswich, Boston and Charlestown, produced only three convictions in the thirty-one witchcraft trials it conducted.


14 posted on 06/19/2009 9:14:11 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: bruinbirdman

Yes.


15 posted on 06/19/2009 10:26:15 PM PDT by constitutiongirl ("Duty is ours. Consequences are God's."- General Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson)
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To: bruinbirdman

good, becuase that’s satanic and evil, they should be grateful that they’re not being “burned at the stake” anymore..


16 posted on 06/19/2009 10:40:16 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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To: bruinbirdman
So "No, you can't use our basement" somehow equals persecution?

Would that there were a way to teleport these biddies back to the 14th century.

17 posted on 06/19/2009 11:02:22 PM PDT by Tenniel2 (Memo to politicians: Don't worry about "shovel-ready." Worry about "pitchfork-ready.")
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To: bruinbirdman
It must suck going through life looking like some sort of groupie from a Harry Potter convention.

"Expelliarmus!"

She hoped to attract up to 150 people to the social evening offering a buffet dinner and music from an Abba tribute band

I guess that beats prancing around naked in the woods.

Mrs Davis, who has 11 grandchildren, gave up her former job in a forklift truck company to set up the Crystal Cauldron, where she is known as "Amethyst Selmeselene".

You can't make this stuff up.

18 posted on 06/19/2009 11:45:18 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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