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Third, we ought to remind our neighbors that the First Amendment was written not just to protect the government from churches, but more so to protect churches from the government.

And that's exactly what the secularists don't want people to know.

1 posted on 06/18/2009 12:59:16 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/18/2009 1:00:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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"In Britain, the government has begun sticking its nose in church business..."LOL, in Britain, the government created the Church, but it's a good reminder about the application of so-called 'equality' laws...this however is where that 'wall of seperation' comes in handy.
3 posted on 06/18/2009 1:01:52 PM PDT by americanophile
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It will be here too, sooner than you think. With “hate-crime” laws, it will be illegal to say anything that could possibly be construed as being offensive to sodomites or muslims.


4 posted on 06/18/2009 1:02:36 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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What is the Queen thinking? Is she not the head of the Church of England?


5 posted on 06/18/2009 1:02:37 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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6 posted on 06/18/2009 1:03:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Neil Addison, a Catholic barrister who is an expert on religious discrimination laws, told the Telegraph that the Equity Law “is a threat to religious liberty.”

Now there's some good British understatement for you. A "threat"? More like a hatchet.

Should this ever come to pass here, there will plenty of churches where the congregations won't ever know the difference. Some of them are already essentially DNC meeting halls with crosses on them.

7 posted on 06/18/2009 1:05:22 PM PDT by workerbee (If you vote for Democrats, you are engaging in UnAmerican Activity.)
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If government is going to control the churches, will it also do the same to Islam and other non-Christian religions?


8 posted on 06/18/2009 1:05:39 PM PDT by 353FMG
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Aren’t there UN Chapels in NYC, SF and St Louis?


9 posted on 06/18/2009 1:06:26 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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I’m surprised at Chuck, he being a Christian teacher and all. The Bible he believes is the Word of God says that this very thing IS going to happen. Yes, we should fight it as long as possible but it is going to happen.


12 posted on 06/18/2009 1:09:07 PM PDT by fish hawk (The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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We could always start holding bible studies at home... oh right.. cities are cracking down on that too


14 posted on 06/18/2009 1:09:30 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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Will we put our congregations under the authority of Caesar?

Most churches are already under the authority of Caesar by way of the 501C3 tax exemption. It's only a matter of time before Caesar begins to exercise his authority by demanding that any organization that receives a tax exemption must not discriminate in hiring.
21 posted on 06/18/2009 1:12:48 PM PDT by slumber1 (Serenity Now!)
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We ought to be in prayer for the church in Great Britain, asking God to guide it as the government bears down.

True.

23 posted on 06/18/2009 1:31:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Visit the updated Tax-chick page for news, recent photos, and LOLcats.)
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England is a different situation. It has both an established state church in the Church of England, a head of state that is also a religious figure in the person of the queen, and no constitutional barriers of the sort we have.


25 posted on 06/18/2009 1:41:27 PM PDT by TomOnTheRun
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Many of the churches already have fallen in line with leftwing dogma and approve of things that are not in tune with Christianity.


27 posted on 06/18/2009 1:43:20 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (leftism is morally and ethically corrupt.)
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It be a snow day in hell before a mosque is forced to hire a fag.


28 posted on 06/18/2009 2:03:28 PM PDT by rawhide
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Let the government try — nothing builds up true Christianity like persecution. The chafe will be burned away and the gold will be refined. The remnants will be stronger than ever.


29 posted on 06/18/2009 2:56:03 PM PDT by TexasRepublic
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I can only imagine the reaction of a British mosque when the religion police orders it to hire a lesbian secretary.

Hahaha, silly man. These laws only apply to Christians.

34 posted on 06/19/2009 8:51:23 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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