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Vanity: I have a large hive of bees in my wall, and want to transplant them (no-kill): HOW!?
18 JUN 09 | dcbryan1

Posted on 06/18/2009 10:38:34 AM PDT by DCBryan1

Freepers:

As usual, I try to find "experts" on certain issues here before I go searching for the "googled" or "wiki" answers.

I have a large hive of honey bees (non-african) in my wall of my house. I have tolerated them for a wile (they have been there for four-five years), but this year they are much, much more numerous and I fear that the mold/mildew inside of my siding will be detrimental in the long run.

I want to safely remove them without destroying the hive and transplant them to a bee box.

Beekeeping has been one of my "learn how to do" hobbies and I think this is a great opportunity.

Do any of you have any experience, techniques, or known methods to safely remove a hive from within an exterior wall, and then transplant them to a bee-box?

Thanks for your input!


TOPICS: US: Arkansas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: beekeeper; bees; hive; honeybee
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To: Revelation 911
didnt you know this is an insect forum?

Actually, it's an aspiring comedian forum. Ah well, maybe it keeps folks from writing on the walls of public places.

81 posted on 06/18/2009 11:10:47 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private FC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC - Lnc Crprl -6/4/09 - 29 Palms, CA)
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To: Lazamataz

Oh God, that was freakin’ funny!


82 posted on 06/18/2009 11:11:15 AM PDT by Hatheos
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To: DCBryan1

“I have tolerated them for a wile (they have been there for four-five years), but this year they are much, much more numerous and I fear that the mold/mildew inside of my siding will be detrimental in the long run. “

My Aunt in So TX had a hive in the wall of her dining room - couldn’t use it cause she was allergic to the bees. Literally decades went by... aunt died and her son moved in. He had lung disease from toxic mold - the house had to be bull-dozed!

DO SOMETHING!!! so you have a house!


83 posted on 06/18/2009 11:12:06 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Cicero

My brother had hornets living in his wall, the entry was from a gap where the porch light was attached. I told I’d spray it down for him, but he’s live and let live kind of guy and said no, they’re not hurting anyone. We walked out on the porch to look at them and one flew down and nailed him on the leg. Within a minute he was hosing down the nest with bug spray.


84 posted on 06/18/2009 11:12:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: DCBryan1

Three steps, smoke bees, find queen, place queen in new hive, move hive after she and the workers are inside. Hope you were smart enough to put your bee mask and etc on first..


85 posted on 06/18/2009 11:13:15 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Rebelbase

Hornets are unvarnished evil. Death to hornets.


86 posted on 06/18/2009 11:13:44 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private FC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC - Lnc Crprl -6/4/09 - 29 Palms, CA)
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To: ridesthemiles
Old Queens are rarely happy.......

How right you are...how right you are!

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87 posted on 06/18/2009 11:16:17 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1

Now you’ve trashed your own thread. Good grief!


88 posted on 06/18/2009 11:18:07 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private FC- 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC - Lnc Crprl -6/4/09 - 29 Palms, CA)
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To: DCBryan1
What are some of those issues? Neighbor said, mildew and mold. Do the bees actually destroy insulation, wiring, wood studs, etc?

As Lastchance mentioned in post #64, once the bees are removed, the honeycomb and honey will rot. It all has to come out. The bright side of this, you have the freshest, best honey around, and possibly your own hive....depending on the beekeeper. I've known some beekeepers that will remove the honeycomb for you, but any damage they do is your expense to repair. Definitely shop around, and don't take the first offer, you have many hundreds of dollars worth of honey in you walls...

89 posted on 06/18/2009 11:18:50 AM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: don-o
Hornets are unvarnished evil.

I remember chasing an active, blue/black wasp around as a kid after it stung a tarantula. Farm hand came up and told me that the sting on that critter was so bad, that I would walk up and swat a hornets nest rather than be stung by a tarantula wasp.

Needless to say, as an 8 year old, I never chased them again.

90 posted on 06/18/2009 11:19:00 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: ridesthemiles

Don’t talk to me, talk to the guy wanting to move his bees. I was merely suggesting he call a beekeeper.


91 posted on 06/18/2009 11:22:14 AM PDT by calex59
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To: DCBryan1
Removing Honey Bees From Inside A Wall

You're going to have to hire a professional to remove the colony. A beekeeper may be able to coax the queen out, but there are specialists out there who can do this without killing the bees.

92 posted on 06/18/2009 11:22:16 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: DCBryan1

Here is a method we used to use to get bees out of walls.


1. Get a ladder or what ever it takes to put the opening of your hive near the entrance.

2. Make a screen funnel and tack it over the opening of the swarm’s entrance. Make sure the opening is fairly small so that most bees won’t be able to go back into the wall.

3. Eventually the bees will give up trying to go into the wall and go into the hive. If you have some honey, put some into the hive. If you have a local beekeeper, see if he will give you some comb foundation and put one or two sheets into the frames.

4. Once most of the bees are out of the wall, the queen may come out and go into the hive as well. If not, the hive will usually reproduce another queen.

5. After a few days, put the hive onto a lower surface about half the distance that it was before. After a week or so, lower it onto a dolly if you have one or onto the ground.

6. Mark the hive with a light color bucket - NOT RED - and move it a few feet per day, until you get it to the permanent location.


93 posted on 06/18/2009 11:23:03 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: don-o
Now you’ve trashed your own thread. Good grief!

How about a good antidote?

Ahhhh....much better. Methinks this queen bee is a real honey!

94 posted on 06/18/2009 11:23:05 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: Rebelbase

Ground wasps and hornets get no pity from me.


95 posted on 06/18/2009 11:26:27 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: DCBryan1

The wax and honey are an attractant to hundreds of different kinds of other insects, and mold is likely.

The bees will not damage the house unless they are “carpenter” bees, which are a large, mild mannered black bumble bee that bores holes in wood.

To take the bees, you will have to use the vacuum method, because you won’t be able to get to the queen(s) until the bees are removed, and you can open up the wall.

Once the wall is opened, you can find the queen cells and remove them to hive boxes. Trying to keep them will be problematic, because of the scent of the old hive, which will attract them back the next season when the colony gets too big and splits.

Remember to tape the opening of the vacuum shut after you have drawn them out so they will not excape.

If you do it yourself, it will be something you remember for a long time! The cleanup will be considerable work.


96 posted on 06/18/2009 11:27:58 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Wow...cool..thanks!


97 posted on 06/18/2009 11:31:30 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: nikos1121
remove the large, and I mean large combs.

Ok, I'll bite....how large?

98 posted on 06/18/2009 11:32:35 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1

Could they be killer bees?


99 posted on 06/18/2009 11:32:44 AM PDT by donna (The best security for old age: respect your children. - Sholem Asch)
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To: Cicero
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but I have a similar problem/question...

A neighbor along an alley we share got himself an untrained (trained attack dogs are silent until there is a real and immediate threat) attack dog recently, which he keeps "locked up" in the back yard, which borders the alley.
This animal is big, looks like a doberman-rottweiler mix and is vicious reacting to passersby. Unfortunately that's where I walk my dog twice a day.

The dog already had literally broken a wooden fence throwing himself at it while trying to attack us for just walking by.

My question, what is the most effective (non-lethal) way to thward an attack by such a dog? I fear his getting out is just a matter of time.

100 posted on 06/18/2009 11:33:41 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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