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EMT Who Fought With Oklahoma Trooper Wants Officer to Lose Badge
AP (via FOX News) ^ | June 16, 2009

Posted on 06/16/2009 1:10:08 PM PDT by Eddings

OKLAHOMA CITY — The paramedic who scuffled with an Oklahoma highway police officer while a patient waited inside the ambulance says the trooper should lose his badge.

Maurice White Jr. said Tuesday on the CBS "Early Show" that trooper Daniel Martin was in a state of rage when he stopped his ambulance and totally disregarded the patient's safety.

Martin stopped the ambulance May 24 for failing to yield.

White says he got out of the ambulance to tell the trooper they were taking a patient to the hospital. The argument quickly escalated into a scuffle and Martin put White in a choke hold.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: cop; donutwatch; emt; leo
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To: ketsu; gridlock

Seriously ketsu! That is really not necessary and not how adults argue their point of view.


141 posted on 06/16/2009 3:25:10 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: gridlock
He is responding to an emergency call of his own. He goes to pass an ambulance that has neither lights or sirens going, and the ambulance fails to yeild and the driver gives him the finger.

So you and the cop says, the EMT guys says no. If the cop and you have a picture please post it. Otherwise I just cannot believe the little out of control cop.

142 posted on 06/16/2009 3:27:23 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Snopes - Partially Photoshopped.


143 posted on 06/16/2009 3:27:56 PM PDT by Eddings
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To: Vendome

Reading what, if it was about the statement by the other cop it was from the post I responded to.


144 posted on 06/16/2009 3:28:40 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Do you have a link to the sane OHP statement?

Thanks.


145 posted on 06/16/2009 3:32:07 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: org.whodat

Thanks. I found the post and asked that poster for a link.


146 posted on 06/16/2009 3:32:45 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: gridlock
I only watched about 4 minutes (dial up and that took 1/2 hour) but I kinda agree with you...The officers job is to talk to the driver, not someone else and the EMT blocked his way...If the EMT had gotten back in the vehicle, there would have been no brew ha ha...I didn't stay with the download long enough to see any choke hold...

I see it as a man that says he is an EMT trying to stop the cop from talking with the driver.... there is the possibility that if the EMT returned to the vehicle, the cop would have given a warning or been open to the patients presents...I don't know what happened in the last 4 minutes. But the EMT was in the wrong for trying to stop an officer in traffic stop, its his job to talk to the driver no one else...

148 posted on 06/16/2009 3:44:30 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Bulldawg Fan

“...The officer will likely be fired...”
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GOOD! I really hope he does.
I hate cops who are on some kind of an ego trip.
Are you one of them?


149 posted on 06/16/2009 3:50:47 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (When the time comes, right thinking men will know what to do.)
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To: ketsu

Going from calling me stupid to calling me a Nazi.

Your arguments just keep on getting more and more persuasive, don’t they?


150 posted on 06/16/2009 3:50:49 PM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: gridlock

You’re right. He was simply choking him. Far worse.


151 posted on 06/16/2009 3:52:05 PM PDT by dangus
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To: gridlock

>> After you say you hope the cop’s wife gets a case of Jungle Fever, it’s a little bit late to un-play the race card... <<

By playing the race card, I meant using racism as a basis for punishing the cop. My point in un-playing the card is to assert that the cop’s behavior is despicable no matter what his motivation was.


152 posted on 06/16/2009 3:54:54 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

That is simply not correct. A choke hold is far more dangerous than what you saw on the video. It is far worse.


153 posted on 06/16/2009 3:55:47 PM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: dangus
>> After you say you hope the cop’s wife gets a case of Jungle Fever, it’s a little bit late to un-play the race card... <<

By playing the race card, I meant using racism as a basis for punishing the cop. My point in un-playing the card is to assert that the cop’s behavior is despicable no matter what his motivation was.

Sorry for my confusion. One so rarely sees the term "Jungle Fever" in an argument that is not racist.

154 posted on 06/16/2009 3:59:13 PM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: ketsu; gridlock

Looking through your past posts you seem to be an agitator and someone who is validated by seeking confrontation.

Then again, you may seriously suffer from a nervous tick

Later, tater.


155 posted on 06/16/2009 3:59:20 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: gridlock

When you are intellectually bankrupt you fall back to the childish position of name calling. Cuz you got nothing.


156 posted on 06/16/2009 4:03:31 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: ketsu

Many people have posted with great conviction that the EMT “outranks” the Officer in this case. Others have relied on those posts to condemn the officer’s actions, to the point of charging that the officer is guilty of a felony. After all, he was “outranked”, etc.

By referring to the fact that the officer has not been charged, I am looking for objective information from an outside source, rather than just relying only on what others have posted on this thread.

It could be that the people who have posted that the chain of authority in this case are clear are absolutely right. That has not been my experience, but I will admit that my experience in such matters is limited. That is why I am looking for external confirmation.

For instance, if the officer were being charged with a felony, which so many people here have said he obviously committed, in front of witnesses and on camera, that would be powerful confirmation that what the officer did was, in fact, a felony.

If the officer is not charged with a felony, for his actions in front of some many people and caught on camera, that might indicate that, perhaps, what he did was not a felony.


157 posted on 06/16/2009 4:10:46 PM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: gridlock
the officer probably would have just told the driver that he has to yield and he really shouldn’t flip off the police, and they would have been on their way.

Would that really have been enough to show the officer's wife that, despite bedroom performance, he was really manly?

158 posted on 06/16/2009 4:11:35 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Vendome; dangus
When you are intellectually bankrupt you fall back to the childish position of name calling. Cuz you got nothing.

Who have I called a name? Certainly not you, Vendome. We have argued before, and I have great respect for you, and would never call you a name.

I guess you might construe that I called dangus a racist in post 154. I did not mean to cause any offense, dangus, and I apologize.

159 posted on 06/16/2009 4:15:50 PM PDT by gridlock (L'Etat, c'est Barack...)
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To: gridlock

I am so sorry! I was talking about the idiot savant, Ketsu.

I have always enjoyed our interactions and look forward to more.

Please accept my apology for the misunderstanding you were not the object of that post.


160 posted on 06/16/2009 4:21:59 PM PDT by Vendome
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