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Early Christians and Abortion
LifeSiteNews ^ | 6/15/09 | By David W. T. Brattston, Copyright David W. T. Brattston

Posted on 06/15/2009 2:07:35 PM PDT by wagglebee

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Excellent information!
1 posted on 06/15/2009 2:07:35 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/15/2009 2:08:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 06/15/2009 2:08:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 06/15/2009 2:10:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The earliest source is an anonymous church manual of the late first century called The Didache. It commands “thou shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is begotten.” (at 2.2)

It isn't anonymous. The primary authors of the original core of the Didache were Paul and Barnabus. They wrote it in the 40's A.D. and it is a version of the sample sermon that wound up securing the historic agreement noted in Acts 15.

5 posted on 06/15/2009 2:13:21 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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6 posted on 06/15/2009 2:13:35 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: TheFourthMagi

I believe it was added to after the deaths of Saints Paul and Barnabas.


7 posted on 06/15/2009 2:18:26 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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" 'Thou shall not slay the child by procuring abortion; nor, again, shalt thou destroy it after it is born.' (19.5) The latter phrase refers to the ancient Greek and Roman practice of abandoning newborns to die in unpopulated areas if the baby was the 'wrong' sex or suspected of health problems. "

Just a side note here regarding that practice of "exposing" unwanted infants to the elements, or leaving them at temples or church steps at night. Some died; some were found and nurtured, or made slaves. The ones saved by priestesses or nuns were sometimes given the surname "Esposito" (exposed) on their birth records; others came to be known by the name "Schiavo", which means "slave."

8 posted on 06/15/2009 2:19:18 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Shouldn't there be equal time for our Bill of Responsibilities?" -- Justice Clarence Thomas)
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Just an observation for my Protestant brethren... what happened to Sola Scriptura? See 1 Tim 3:15.


9 posted on 06/15/2009 2:28:08 PM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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Good post. But before you hang your hats on the various writings of the early church fathers, consider that John related Christ’s assessment of the early Churches in the first 3 chapters of Revelation. Even by 90 A.D. a LOT of heresy had crept into the churches. They were already pulling the stunts we pull today.

Also note that in the world around them, child sacrifice was incorporated into a lot of “accepted” religions. This practice would have been so repugnant that explicit instructions regarding abortion would have hardly been necessary.


10 posted on 06/15/2009 2:35:20 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: wagglebee

It was added to by others after Paul and Barnabus wrote the core of it.


11 posted on 06/15/2009 2:38:12 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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That practice was rampant and one of the great contributions of the early Christian church was to take care of those little ones.


12 posted on 06/15/2009 2:40:06 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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Good points.


13 posted on 06/15/2009 2:40:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Albion Wilde
Believe it or not, this practice continued into the eighteenth century, with unwanted infants in London being left on the steps of the Temple Church, on the border between the Inner and the Middle Temple (two of the Inns of Court). Babies so left were given the surname "Temple".

It's a very cool church, for one thing it's round. For another it isn't on a street - it's down a maze of alleys and courtyards, no vehicular traffic. Oliver Goldsmith is buried in the courtyard next to the altar end.


14 posted on 06/15/2009 2:44:05 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: pgyanke

I don’t think anyone is claiming these are scripture - just that it gives insight into accepted teachings of the early church.

However, if you know of scriptures PRAISING abortion, feel free to educate us.


15 posted on 06/15/2009 2:44:27 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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Just an observation for my Protestant brethren... what happened to Sola Scriptura? See 1 Tim 3:15.

Scriptura was still in the process of being defined at the time of these early writings.

To be honest, I am less impressed with the quotations in the first half of the article than from those from Athanagoras through the conclusion precisely because some come from writings that were deliberately excluded from the canon of scripture.

Even some of the latter sources come from questionable characters. Tertullian was declared a heretic; and certainly his self-castration is evidence that he was a fanatic. Hippolytus' dubious position is properly noted, although it is worth noting that a Eucharistic Canon attributed to him is found in all Western liturgies (as Prayer II in the Roman Missal, Prayer IV in the Lutheran Book of Worship, and Rite Two form B in the 1979 Book of Common Prayer.

I am most impressed by the quotation from +Cyprian, for here is a worthy teacher respected by both East and West.

16 posted on 06/15/2009 2:58:20 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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17 posted on 06/15/2009 2:58:46 PM PDT by WKB (From "Handout" to "Bailout")
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There was a plant which grew in north Africa that was an excellent abortifiacant. As it was unleathal to women who used it, and much in demand, eventually the plant became extinct.

Today we, including myself, see sexual intercourse and a resulting pregnancy as being a choice and therefore abortion is murder.

In the ancient world women were the property of men and had no choice option, such as “No”. One of the saddest archeological finds in Jerusalem was the skeletons of new born babies found in the sewers under ancient Roman-era brothels. The Christian belief that all life was sacred was indeed enlightened thinking, not just then but even now.


18 posted on 06/15/2009 3:01:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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However, there is also a quote from St. Clement whose credibility has NEVER been questioned as far as I know.


19 posted on 06/15/2009 3:02:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Excellent points ... even the pagans knew abortion was wrong ... the Oath of Hippocrates (yes, the Hippocratic Oath) has the lines ... “I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.”


20 posted on 06/15/2009 3:10:30 PM PDT by ikka (Brother, you asked for it!)
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