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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I didn’t like when he said that the holocaust happened because we didn’t have Israel. True, but we should have Israel whether they throw pogroms or parties for us. I avoid any connection with pogroms & holocausts when talking about Israel because this is a major theme among enemies of Israel that has great impact. That we needed a land because we are persecuted (acceptable) but no right to make the Palestinians pay for it by taking their land (unacceptable). This has great effect on people & many people think this way, so it’s important to pound on the idea that this land is ours because it’s ours. It’s holy land & it’s ours. Nothing to do with any other reason, & never bring it up. Religious reasons should always be used before secular ones because our religion is our real identity.


261 posted on 06/14/2009 12:04:56 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: Girlene
Hamas reacts to Netanyahu's speech. EXTRA: Hamas: Netanyahu speech a 'slap in the face' to Palestinians
262 posted on 06/14/2009 12:07:51 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: forkinsocket; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; pissant; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
That we needed a land because we are persecuted (acceptable) but no right to make the Palestinians pay for it by taking their land (unacceptable).

Concocting an outrageous fiction and total fabrication about a non-distinct group of nomadic and transient Arabs falsely called "Palestinians" (unacceptable) that went to live for free (unacceptable) where the Zionists drained swamps, leveled sand dunes, irrigated deserts, built gardens, roads, stores, homes in what was uninhabitable land purchased by Jews for exhorbitant prices in the ancestral home of Israel (acceptable but highway robbery), sixteen years after five Arab nations refused the UN partition plan for an independent Arab state (unacceptable) launched an unprovoked War to exterminate all Jews (unacceptable) and created the "refugee" problem for 738,000 "Palestinians" urged to leave from the Jewish settlements by the Arabs (unacceptable), even though the Zionists begged them to stay (acceptable to one million "Palestinians" who stayed) while these same Arab countries expelled over 860,000 Jews without their possessions (unacceptable), and refused to allow their "Palestinian" "brothers" to resettle in any of their Arab land (unacceptable), while Israel absorbed all 860,000 Jews (acceptable) as well as the "one million Arabs" who went to live side-by-side with the Zionists (acceptable), on land that was never theirs to begin with, and then for the next twenty years, the Arab nations of Egypt and Jordan brutally occupied and oppressed the 738,000 refugees who fled to Gaza and the West Bank (unacceptable), forcing them to live in squalid "refugee" camps (unacceptable), until Arafat and the PLO correctly labeled the nation of Transjordan, now Jordan, as the independent "Palestinian" state (acceptable), but when King Hussein fearing a coup, put down the Palestinian rebellion, exiled Arafat and the PLO to Lebanon, (acceptable), but then, after a 1956 War to again exterminate Jews (unacceptable), and then another war in 1967, which they lost (acceptable), and also lost Gaza and the West Bank which was intended to be the Jewish national homeland (acceptable) and the many Palestinians who lived in Gaza and West Bank prospered and had the highest standard of living of any Middle East country (acceptable) covering all of what was the sovereign nation of Israel over 3,000 years before this mythology was ever created, before the Romans unacceptably destroyed Jerusalem and Israel, before the Moslems unacceptably captured them, before the Crusades acceptably recaptured the Holy Land, only to lose it again (unacceptible) to the Moselm Ottoman Empire (unacceptable), before the Arabs launched their pogroms against Jewish settlers (unacceptable), before there ever was a "right of return" (unacceptable), before the UN classified anyone living in Isreal TWO DAYS BEFORE THE WAR OF EXTERMINIATION as a "refugee" (totally unacceptable) and who created UNWRA, the only permanant refugee program and one populated and run by terrorists (unacceptable), and where two million illegal Arab immigrants moved into camps and built illegal settlements in the West Bank and Jerusalem (unacceptable) who had descendents now also labeled as "refugees" (unacceptable), and from which followed one failed peace planafter another because Palestinians DO NOT WANT PEACE NOR DO THEY WANT A JEWISH PRESENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST (way freakin' unacceptable!!!)

Or, something like that.

304 posted on 06/14/2009 6:15:54 PM PDT by Polarik (It's the forgery, Stupid!)
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