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'Buy American' Costs American Jobs
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Posted on 06/13/2009 4:03:04 PM PDT by newbie2008

When he voted for the Obama stimulus, Arlen Specter effectively signed the pink slips for 600 jobs in Pennsylvania. From the Canadian Press:

As many as 600 steelworkers in Pennsylvania, whose union lobbied for the Buy America law, are slated to lose their jobs at Duferco Farrell after the company lost orders from its biggest customer because some of its goods are partly produced abroad.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhostimulus; buyamerican; layoffs; socialism; specter; steelworkers
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1 posted on 06/13/2009 4:03:04 PM PDT by newbie2008
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To: newbie2008

Like to know how this works: “Buy American” costs U.S. jobs, so therefore buying crap from China no doubt increases U.S. jobs???
Sounds like an agenda-driven press release, not a data-driven one.


2 posted on 06/13/2009 4:10:23 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Redbob
Like to know how this works: “Buy American” costs U.S. jobs

You no doubt already know this...but it encourages all national economies to contract or cease free trade and that brings about a global contraction in the movement of goods and capital.

Google the Smoot Hartley Act.

3 posted on 06/13/2009 4:14:22 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: "Enough about me, let's talk about you...what do you think of me?")
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To: newbie2008

Nothing can be determined from that one paragraph lifted from an article full of generalities.


4 posted on 06/13/2009 4:22:39 PM PDT by Will88
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To: fanfan

Ping.


5 posted on 06/13/2009 4:27:29 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: newbie2008
600 steelworkers in Pennsylvania, whose union lobbied for the Buy America law, are slated to lose their jobs

LOL! Brilliant! Didn't see that one coming, huh?

6 posted on 06/13/2009 4:36:18 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Will88

“Nothing can be determined from that one paragraph lifted from an article full of generalities.”

Sure you can. ;)

It’s from a Canadian source. Biased.

It’s from Club for Some People’s Growth. Unreliable.

It does not explain how the extra stimulus spending rules effect jobs for other products and contracts not related to the stimulus. In fact, because it purposefully muddies that, it can be taken to be bunk.


7 posted on 06/13/2009 4:38:08 PM PDT by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: Redbob

The problem is that many “US” companies do not use American components. Therefore, they can’t meet the “buy america” provisions of the act, and so they lose the orders.


8 posted on 06/13/2009 4:53:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Shermy

Even the excerpt is clear enough — the company in question can’t sell their products under the buy-american provision because they use raw materials they get from non-US sources.


9 posted on 06/13/2009 4:54:24 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Redbob
And another way to look at this matter is by considering the power of teamwork.

We all intrinsically understand that different people have different strengths (and assets) and that combining them in a team makes the whole much greater than the sum of the parts.

Countries also have different strengths and assets and when they share with each other by trading, the world economy is much stronger...and each country benefits according to their contribution.

10 posted on 06/13/2009 5:00:15 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: "Enough about me, let's talk about you...what do you think of me?")
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To: Redbob
Like to know how this works: “Buy American” costs U.S. jobs, so therefore buying crap from China no doubt increases U.S. jobs???

No, it simply means that the "Buy American" provision cost jobs, in this case.

You can call it "government meddling costs jobs," or "government meddling often has consequences opposite its intent," if that helps.

11 posted on 06/13/2009 5:21:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Army Air Corps; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ...
Thanks for the ping AAC.


12 posted on 06/13/2009 5:26:14 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Shermy
It’s from Club for Some People’s Growth. Unreliable.

Got that right. Global communists, masquerading as conservatives.

13 posted on 06/13/2009 5:39:21 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: newbie2008

There seems to be a lot more to this story. This company is a joint venture between a US and Russian firm. The steel slabs they normally use are shipped from a plant in Russia, but there are several plants in the US that could supply the steel so that DF could supply products that meet the Buy American guideline for stimulus projects.

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS304US304&aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Duferco+Farrell

//www.steelguru.com/news/index/2009/05/17/OTQ3MDQ%3D/Duferco_Farrell_says_the_Buy_American_provision_doom_its_business.html

http://www.usw.org/media_center/news_articles?id=0315

This company basically wants to continue using steel slabs shipped from the Russian plant of the Russian part owner of DF.


14 posted on 06/13/2009 5:39:55 PM PDT by Will88
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To: All

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_for_Growth

nobody has even heard of club for growth ?


15 posted on 06/13/2009 5:59:47 PM PDT by newbie2008 (http://www.google.com/reader/shared/11513180806521029900)
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To: Shermy
It’s from Club for Some People’s Growth. Unreliable.

I'm with you on this one. When the Club for Growth beomoans the loss of American jobs, something's fishy, like if NARAL complained about there being too many abortions.
16 posted on 06/13/2009 6:02:23 PM PDT by Pallas
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To: Shermy

Actually the same information was in an editorial in the NYT on June 3. It included other examples of jobs lost.


17 posted on 06/13/2009 6:45:35 PM PDT by lugom
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To: newbie2008; Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama
nobody has even heard of Club for Growth?

LOL--they might have heard of the Club for Growth, but they haven't listened. Look into my eyes and repeat after me: "the Buy American legislation saves jobs, the Buy American legislation saves jobs, the Buy . . . ."

In any case, the following editorial was more comprehensive:

Steel's 'Buy America' Ploy (How to turn recession into a depression.)

If you read the comments that follow, you'll see the same sort of denial exhibited in places above on this thread.
18 posted on 06/14/2009 6:11:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: meadsjn
Global communists, masquerading as conservatives.

Small government conservatives are now communists? Does that make a big government guy like you a conservative?

19 posted on 06/14/2009 6:43:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Pallas
When the Club for Growth beomoans the loss of American jobs, something's fishy, like if NARAL complained about there being too many abortions.

The CFG is merely pointing out the obvious. When government inserts itself into the equation, in an effort to do good, no one should be surprised when it doesn't work out as planned. Now some people here, who have never learned this lesson, are demanding more government action to correct the government action that got us into this mess in the first place. They call themselves, among other things, true conservatives.

20 posted on 06/14/2009 7:24:28 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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