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Southern States Poach Businesses Amid Downturn
WSJ ^ | 06/13/09 | ANSLEY HAMAN

Posted on 06/13/2009 7:23:19 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Southern States Poach Businesses Amid Downturn

By ANSLEY HAMAN

When NCR Corp. started looking late last summer to move from its hometown of Dayton, Ohio, economic development agencies in the South pulled out all the stops in a bid to lure the 125-year-old company best known as a cash-register manufacturer.

Georgia quickly offered more than $100 million in tax and training incentives. State officials connected NCR with six Georgia research universities willing to license new technologies and train workers.

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NCR and other companies are moving operations to the South. A Volkswagen plant is seen under construction in Chattanooga, Tenn., last month. In addition to traditional incentives like tax abatements and fee waivers, local economic development leaders in the suburban Atlanta county where NCR's headquarters would be located negotiated discounts for the company with rental-car companies, airlines and landscapers. The city of Columbus, Ga., 100 miles from Atlanta, applied for $5.5 million in stimulus money to help pay for a new NCR factory. After deciding to build a customer-services center near Atlanta last year, the company last week said it would relocate its 1,250-employee headquarters to the area and open an ATM factory in Columbus.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: business; downturn; redstates; rustbelt; sunbelt
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To: Jhoffa_
Overworked golden goose got sick and fear that it may die. So it ran away to another place to call its home.

— happy ending of a parable —

21 posted on 06/13/2009 8:04:18 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Let us hope..

FrankR makes a good point up there.. Rats flee a sinking ship and bring their undesirable traits and prerogatives with them. So the stage is set for some future tussle.

The cool part is we get to watch the remaining leftists drain these haughty, formerly prosperous, places of every last cent till they collapse in a heap.

Oldexpat's comment on regulation as a means to control emigration is a concern also. The south and the middle south is heavily reliant on coal power. My understanding is that Obama intended to punish coal power plants, and by extension the end users, but has been undermined.. In part by his own party, who presumably see a train wreck coming.

22 posted on 06/13/2009 8:13:48 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (I wish my grass were EMO, so it would cut itself..)
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To: Jhoffa_
Rats flee a sinking ship and bring their undesirable traits and prerogatives with them.

This has already happened in 90's. Californians fleeing to neighboring states with cheaper tax(LOL) and lower living expense.

They wasted no time to push for things which made California such a pit. You have to shoot them at the border.:-)

23 posted on 06/13/2009 8:20:23 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: Jhoffa_

Want to see the Train Wreck Graphically?

take a look at this map:

Look at this interactive map:

Job Loss/Gain 2007-2009 by county-

http://www.slate.com/id/2216238/

This is where the riots in the streets will begin 6-9 months from now.


24 posted on 06/13/2009 8:21:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We’re going to have to divide into two countries, or the blue states will just tax prosperity out of the red states, to pay for the parasites left behind.


25 posted on 06/13/2009 8:22:50 AM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Dayton whined about this move by NCR but they’ve never been known as particularly business-friendly.”

Common sense should dictate that when a city like Dayton is threatened with the loss of a company such as NCR, which not only provides a lot of jobs but is strongly identified with the city, they should step up to the plate with a matching set of incentives to keep the company6.


26 posted on 06/13/2009 8:26:10 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: lainie

Yep!


27 posted on 06/13/2009 8:32:58 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb.13:2)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

“Poaching businesses? More like attracting them with a climate that is not business hostile!”

Absolutely! Ohio has been anti-business for the last 25 years. No surprise that NCR had finally had enough.


28 posted on 06/13/2009 8:47:46 AM PDT by Comparative Advantage
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Could be the South does WIN the war... about a 150 years later.


29 posted on 06/13/2009 8:53:55 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: quantim

It’s interesting how you find different “kinds” of Dem voters in various parts of the country, but they’re equally ignorant:

Midwest/Rust Belt: Socially conservative, Yoon-Yun brainwashed types that think Democrats have honey on their asses and Republicans are evil incarnate

Eastern States: Combination of “generational” Democrats (mostly relatively conservative Catholics that vote Dem because their ‘daddy and granddaddy voted Dem’), black race warriors, and some union types and Limousine Liberals who think Republicans are evil incarnate

California/PNW: Combo of Enviroweenie yuppies and Hollywood limousine libs who think Republicans are evil incarnate


30 posted on 06/13/2009 9:32:55 AM PDT by RockinRight (How do you like your Savior now, libs? Looks like Jimmy Carter is no longer the worst President...)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Exactly
31 posted on 06/13/2009 9:34:51 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: TigerLikesRooster

And Massholes moving to New Hampshire, and Marylanders moving to Northern Virginia...

They’re too stupid to realize it’s their own voting patterns that turned their old home into a sh*thole and will do the same to the place they move to.


32 posted on 06/13/2009 9:35:49 AM PDT by RockinRight (Obama: Making Jimmy Carter Look Competent)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This has been happening long before the ‘downturn’. The Northeast is gonna need a bailout what with all the capitalist folk seeking friendlier tax/non-union environs.


33 posted on 06/13/2009 9:50:26 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Jhoffa_

The Cincy riot of April 2001 was the event that made me a dedicated FReeper. The lack of national reporting on this event was amazing, seeing what was showing up here. The entire thing was quickly forgotten due to events of 9/11, by most, but it very much showed part of the reason businesses often won’t locate in central cities.


34 posted on 06/13/2009 11:05:31 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: MamaB

They’ve been warned!


35 posted on 06/13/2009 11:21:37 AM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: pnh102
I really do not like tax incentives going to specific businesses. Why not just lower tax rates for everyone instead?

The incentives offset the capital expenses of the move. After allowing recovery for those (usually over about 10 years), the company pays taxes at the usual local rates (which are still lower than up north), for a win-win situation.

36 posted on 06/13/2009 1:46:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35; pnh102
The incentives offset the capital expenses of the move. After allowing recovery for those (usually over about 10 years), the company pays taxes at the usual local rates (which are still lower than up north), for a win-win situation.

Further, new businesses do new business with local businesses, plus attract new residents, who contribute new income to the community and generate new sales taxes, new property taxes, etc.

Even more win-win.

Obviously, this simple equation is not understood in blue cities and blue states -- who respond by bitching about the South "poaching" businesses, rather than adopting productive policies.

37 posted on 06/13/2009 2:15:45 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Principled
So with tax breaks to business, tax revenues increase eh?

Sure, not as much as without the breaks, or not as soon, depending on the nature of the breaks. Although some or later is better than none and never, which is what they'd get if the businesses did not locate in their area.

But all those workers will be paying taxes, won't they?

38 posted on 06/13/2009 5:10:53 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
They wasted no time to push for things which made California such a pit. You have to shoot them at the border.:-)

Maybe the reason it didn't seem to work out that way nearly so much in Texas is that Texas weather is not so hospitable. And, neither is it's welfare system. IF they come to Texas, they need to be prepared to fry, to freeze, and most importantly, to work.

39 posted on 06/13/2009 5:14:29 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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