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Assembly leader says new revenue sources are on the table
Sacramento Bee ^ | 6/11/9 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 06/11/2009 7:46:04 AM PDT by SmithL

Californians can brace for a new war over raising revenue to close the state's multibillion-dollar budget shortfall – the first shots are on their way.

Assembly Speaker Karen Bass said Wednesday that her caucus is deciding among numerous revenue-raising options because the $24.3 billion shortfall is too large to bridge without an infusion.

Bass and other Democratic lawmakers fear that mending the hole without new revenue would devastate the state's safety net.

"You can't solve a deficit this big through cuts alone, considering all the cuts that have been made over the last few years," Bass said.

The Los Angeles Democrat said that ideally she would like to see a balanced approach utilizing about equal amounts of program cuts and revenue generation, but she conceded that cuts will dominate.

"We would like for it to be as balanced as possible – I'd love for it to be 50-50, but it's not going to be 50-50," she said.

Bass declined to discuss options under consideration or how much they could raise. She said some could be implemented by a simple majority vote of the Legislature, meaning that they rely on fees or mechanisms other than taxes.

Numerous Assembly Democrats said privately Wednesday that their caucus has spent many hours in behind-closed-doors meetings the past two weeks discussing the need for new revenue and numerous possibilities.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budget; calbudget; callegislature; economy; goldenstate; schwarzenegger; taxandspend; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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Democrats said privately Wednesday that their caucus has spent many hours in behind-closed-doors meetings the past two weeks discussing the need for new revenue
Fish gotta swim,

Birds gotta fly, and

RATS gotta TAX!

1 posted on 06/11/2009 7:46:04 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
"You can't solve a deficit this big through cuts alone, considering all the cuts that have been made over the last few years," Bass said.

WTF?!! Is she really that thickheaded?

2 posted on 06/11/2009 7:47:38 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gitmo detainees to Alcatraz!)
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To: SmithL

Apparently the illicit production of marijuana in Kalifornia is a $14B per year business. Why aren’t they decrim or legalizing it and taxing it to Hell and back?

They could make triple that figure by making it legal and taxing it, no?


3 posted on 06/11/2009 7:48:51 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

DIMWITS.


4 posted on 06/11/2009 7:49:26 AM PDT by bikerman (Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.)
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To: SmithL

The democrat politicians’ precious “safety net” for their constituents is a web that ensnared them. It’s the endgame of a policy of buying votes with taxpayer money. The dems are beholden to their policy, taxpayers leave, the money dries up...and here we are.


5 posted on 06/11/2009 7:50:12 AM PDT by henkster (The GOP is housebroken window-dressing displayed to portray the fiction of a Republic.)
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To: SmithL

What do you mean you can’t do it thru cuts alone?

You mean you don’t want to do so because your favorite constituencies are counting on the government tit being permantly sewn to their lips.

But thats not the same as can’t.


6 posted on 06/11/2009 7:50:24 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“”You can’t solve a deficit this big through cuts alone, considering all the cuts that have been made over the last few years,” Bass said.”

I can’t wait to try that line on my boss. LOL


7 posted on 06/11/2009 7:51:52 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: SmithL

I read yesterday that California’s corporate taxes had fallen by 52.1% this year.


8 posted on 06/11/2009 7:52:25 AM PDT by blam
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To: SmithL
Most of those State gubmint jobs could be eliminated by computerizing things. Even one engineer in the CALTRANS can do more work now than 5-6 could've done before Microstations, AutoCAD, Word, Excel, etc. were developed....and most engineers don't even need a Secretary because they are self-contained.

Another way.....go back to the drawing board on education, and remember the main purpose of Education is to teach kids. When you do that, most of the paperwork, middle-level Central office staff weasels and non-responsible Principals would go away...and you'd have more money for the teachers and even a few more extracurricular program.

I know I know....

9 posted on 06/11/2009 7:55:32 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: rarestia

Crude oil is $72/bbl. There are still plenty of places to drill.


10 posted on 06/11/2009 7:57:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SmithL
Democratic lawmakers fear that mending the hole without new revenue would devastate the state's safety net.

The real net here is what they cast out to take in money.

Those with money should leave California.

Any advice?

Oregon?

11 posted on 06/11/2009 7:58:36 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (The essence of evil lies in the irrational.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Exactly. Sell the offshore oil leases. I don’t want to hear from the legistlature again about increasing MY taxes until they have (1) sold the oil leases, (2) cut all substinance payment to illegals, (3) kicked their kids out of our schools and called ICE to send them packing south of the border, and (4) given up their taxpayer funded cars and gasoline.


12 posted on 06/11/2009 8:00:29 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: SmithL
hey girl (Karen), really make some waves, introduce the Fair Tax for the State of California!!!
13 posted on 06/11/2009 8:03:37 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: blam
I read yesterday that California’s corporate taxes had fallen by 52.1% this year.

The scare mongers are trying to frighten readers into believing "you're all gonna die!"

The numbers quoted were for May, only. On a year-to-date basis (Jul 1, 08 - May 31, 09), Corporate tax revenue is down 6%.

BTW, Corporate taxes represent about 10% of the total general fund revenues.

14 posted on 06/11/2009 8:06:11 AM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado!)
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To: rarestia

Even if they decriminalized marijuana and taxed it

They would still spend beyond revenue income.

It’s the nature of the beast.


15 posted on 06/11/2009 8:08:15 AM PDT by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: OldNavyVet

OR is a liberal cloud-cookoo land.


16 posted on 06/11/2009 8:09:37 AM PDT by rahbert (The rule of law is the foundation of our freedom..)
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To: SmithL

One thing I hear a lot is that the pain should be spread more equitably across the population - not just dumped in the lap of government employees. My response to that is to point to private sector job losses and cuts in renumeration, and turn the question around, “why should the private sector be alone in job losses and pay cuts, and THEN be extorted for more tax monies to make sure government employees escape the recession?” The private sector got the pulp beat out of it already.

As for the other argument, maybe it is the case that voters will not stand for the level of cuts made if revenue is not increased. Utilities, schools, fire, police, and even garbage collection are looking to take hits.

In a dire enough case (and I am not convinced the current predicament fits the bill), it may be worthwhile to trade the elimination of regulations (which are a tax on businesses and thus the consumer, but generate no realized government revenue - only direct government control) in return for accepting higher sales taxes (again, I know they were already increased very recently).

Regulations, like inflation, are overlooked in their negative economic impact upon individuals, making them more insidious avenues for social engineering and special interest appeasement. At least a sales tax is highly visible and proportionate in application across the population, and the thus is the most likely of government levies to be restrained by voter interests (now or at a future date). What is the state sales tax in California now, eight and a quarter percent? Plus local sales taxes and an assortment of added taxes...and income taxes, and...

I guess I still cannot fathom how far out of whack government spending is wrt revenues, given the extremely high tax rates already. What a mess.


17 posted on 06/11/2009 8:31:18 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: SmithL

Voters defeated tax increases by almost 2 to 1 margins, yet these people still don’t get it.


18 posted on 06/11/2009 8:42:50 AM PDT by randita
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To: SmithL; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Of course, they will RAISE taxes.
The patient is prepped for critical surgery. The ONLY surgeon capable of saving his/her life in a thousand miles is scrubbing at the moment. A nurse rushes in reporting the patient has an impossibly rare blood type and there is NONE in the state. The surgeon says, “Amazing, that is also my blood type. We’ll not get enough in time.”
An emergency court orders forces the surgeon to donate the needed pintS of blood.
Due to loss of blood, the surgeon cannot perform the operation. The patient expires, while the surgeon is put to bed to recover.
A great idea...raise taxes even more.


19 posted on 06/11/2009 8:43:59 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our Views)
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To: SmithL

“You can’t solve a deficit this big through cuts alone, considering all the cuts that have been made over the last few years,” Bass said.

Why not? You created the mess through spending alone.

Note they also don’t want to say what measures they’ll take to increase taxes. This fits with their desire to pass secret tax increases; the less engaged the voters are, the better, from their perspective.


20 posted on 06/11/2009 9:33:14 AM PDT by DPMD (~)
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