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To: metmom
If that was the case, then why is creation forced out of schools by litigation?

First of all, it hasn't been forced out of schools. There are lots of opportunities in schools to discuss creation, as I've described to you before. It's only been forced out of science class.

Second, you're starting in the wrong place. Consider how it gets into science class in the first place. It gets put in through the actions of politicians who want their religious belief given equal standing as a scientific theory. The litigants are trying to reverse that political action.

You might also ask yourself why the litigation generally succeeds.

138 posted on 06/10/2009 10:38:16 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; valkyry1; Mr. Silverback; ...
First of all, it hasn't been forced out of schools.

Sure it has. Through lawsuits by the ACLU. Look as what happens when someone even wants to put a sticker on a book about theories only being theories. No way it's being TAUGHT in schools.

There are lots of opportunities in schools to discuss creation, as I've described to you before.

Where? What classes? When? You've never provided examples of where in schools opportunities to discuss creation exist.

Second, you're starting in the wrong place. Consider how it gets into science class in the first place. It gets put in through the actions of politicians who want their religious belief given equal standing as a scientific theory. The litigants are trying to reverse that political action.

Revisionist history anyone? Doesn't the Scopes Trials ring a bell?

It wasn't like evolution was taught all along and then creation came along and forced it's way in and kicked out evolution. On the contrary.... creation was around long before the teaching of evolution. The Scopes trials were only the beginning of edging out creation, much less any mention of God, out of the schools.

It gets put in through the actions of politicians who want their religious belief given equal standing as a scientific theory. The litigants are trying to reverse that political action.

There was never any political action taken to insert creation in to public schools, but rather political action taken to keep it from being forced out.

You're making it sound like putting in religious beliefs is something new in education and that it ever managed to get forced in by the misuse of the judiciary. Fine. Show me from history that creation wasn't in the public schools until it was forced in by litigation.

Religion has never been successful in making inroads into public education through the courts. Pretending that it has shows a level of delusion about history that is mind boggling.

You might also ask yourself why the litigation generally succeeds.

I know why the litigation succeeds. Because the ACLU has its cronies on the bench and the leftist, God hating liberals sue schools which can't afford it and the schools lose because it's cheaper to capitulate than to defend against the lawsuit.

It succeeds because of leftist God hating organizations like the NEA have a stranglehold on public education.

140 posted on 06/10/2009 11:28:59 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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