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Why I plan to emulate Dr. George Tiller [not kidding]
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | June 09, 2009 | Rozalyn Farmer Love

Posted on 06/09/2009 5:10:38 PM PDT by madprof98

If I’d passed her on the street, I probably wouldn’t have known her. Her gait is a bit stiff and her left eye somehow different from her right. She’s not famous, exactly, but some people might know her name: Emily Lyons. She’s the nurse who survived the 1998 bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham at the hands of Eric Rudolph.

I was 14 years old when that clinic was bombed, killing a police officer and spraying Emily’s body full of hot nails and shrapnel. Back then, I lived in a small Alabama town, went to church every Sunday and was adamantly opposed to abortion. But by the time I met Emily last year, I was president of the Birmingham chapter of Medical Students for Choice, a group supporting abortion rights. Watching her walk slowly into our fund-raiser on her husband’s arm —- a woman who’d endured more than 18 operations —- I thought of all she’d been through and knew that I’d come to the right decision in my support of reproductive rights.

That conviction only became stronger after I read that Kansas physician George Tiller had been murdered at his Wichita church.

I’m a third-year medical student at the University of Alabama at Birmingham. I plan to become an obstetrician-gynecologist. I dream of delivering healthy babies, working with families and supporting midwifery. But as part of my practice, I also envision providing abortions to women who need them.

The road I took to get here isn’t your stereotypical one. My parents are conservative Christians who believe abortion is wrong. Growing up, I naturally shared their view. But I’ve also wanted to be a doctor since I was 4 years old, and in high school, I began to feel drawn to issues of women’s health. In college, I designed my own major to broaden my understanding of women’s health by including psychology, sociology and women’s studies.

I also served as a counselor for a volunteer organization that helps victims of rape. I sat in hospital rooms with young women who would look at me and say, “I just couldn’t carry his baby.” I could feel their desperation.

At the same time, I found myself shocked at how little many of my friends —- women who were studying biology and planning to become doctors —- knew about their own sexual health. They didn’t know about or couldn’t get the reproductive health care they needed because of barriers put up by their culture, their religion and their parents.

I began to feel as if I were leading a double life. At school, the choices I saw women struggling with were forcing me to question my old convictions. When I went home, I’d go to church with my parents but would find that my views contrasted starkly with those I heard in the sermons. It was a difficult time, because I felt that neither my family nor my church would welcome my questions or understand my struggle.

For the most part, I don’t talk to my parents about those beliefs. They already feel as though I’ve turned my back on much of what they taught me because my husband and I bought a house and lived together for a few months before we were married. Two and a half years later, that rift isn’t fully healed. I know that my views on reproductive rights would be another blow.

But ultimately, we have more in common than they might think. I agree that ending an unwanted pregnancy is a tragedy. When I advocate for reproductive rights, for choice, I don’t claim that abortion is morally acceptable. I think that it’s a very private, intensely personal decision. But I was stunned when one of my professors, a pathologist and a Planned Parenthood supporter, told me that decades ago, entire wings of the university’s hospital were filled with women dying from infections caused by botched abortions. It’s clear that women who don’t want to be pregnant won’t be deterred by limited access to providers or to clinics. And I believe that it’s immoral to let them die rather than provide them with safe, competent care.

I still have a long way to go in my medical training. I’ve never witnessed an actual abortion procedure, though I have been trained, through my work in Medical Students for Choice, in manual vacuum aspiration, a simple procedure used for both incomplete miscarriages and elective terminations in the first trimester. I plan to choose a residency program that provides further training —- a place where I won’t worry that asking to be taught to perform an abortion could somehow limit my future options. At the start of medical school, I was very careful about how I presented my views to the faculty for fear that I could jeopardize my grades or hurt my chances for recommendations or of being accepted into a program run by any of the professors.

As I continue my education, my views on abortion are still evolving. Take late-term abortions. When I first heard about them, I was horrified.

It wasn’t until I spent time in ultrasound rooms in graduate school that I began to see late-trimester abortions in a very different light. In one case, the patient’s baby had just been diagnosed with a lethal congenital anomaly. The high likelihood was that it wouldn’t survive after birth for more than a few minutes. As long as the baby remained in her mother’s womb, however, she would live. I asked the physician what this woman’s options were. The answer was, not many. She could choose to continue the pregnancy, but then she might be waiting for almost 20 more weeks to give birth to a baby that would never take more than a few breaths on its own. She was past the point where she could legally terminate the pregnancy in Alabama. If she could get an appointment in Atlanta within the next week, she might be able to have the procedure there. Beyond that, there were only a few physicians in the nation who would perform an abortion in such a case.

I could hardly wrap my mind around the agony that this woman and her husband must have been facing. They needed a caring physician to help them through this dark moment, and if they chose not to continue the pregnancy, they also needed a physician who was both skilled enough and brave enough to provide them with the care they needed. They needed Dr. Tiller.

I can’t yet imagine doing the kind of work that he did. When I think about my future practice, I think about a doctor I met at a conference who spoke candidly about the harassment his children endured at school because of what their father did. I wonder what seventh grade might be like for my children if I choose to provide abortions.

I’m not the only one with questions. Once, after Medical Students for Choice co-hosted a panel discussion on reducing the number of abortions by providing better education on reproductive health, some of my classmates approached close friends of mine. They were puzzled that an abortion-rights group was talking about wanting to reduce abortions —- and that it viewed ending unwanted pregnancies as a tragedy. Mostly, though, they were confused about what I was doing there. “I know Roz goes to church every Sunday and that she’s a good person,” one classmate asked. “Why would she be involved in a group like this?”

I know my answer to that question. Someday I hope my classmates will understand, too.

Rozalyn Farmer Love is a third-year medical student at the University of Alabama at Birmingham School of Medicine.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; moralabsolutes; prolife; tiller
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To: Venturer

See #20 and pray for her.


21 posted on 06/09/2009 5:27:46 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: wintertime

It’s possible- if she follows through with her plans - she may be able to assist the daughters and grand daughters of those who criticize her.

It should be noted, of course, these young women do NOT get abortions:no indeed !

They undergo medically urgent procedures related to problems they are experiencing “ down there “.


22 posted on 06/09/2009 5:28:27 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: cranked

I earned a M.A. in Psychology in 1997. Most of those I was in the program with were liberal - but, I suspect that they were liberal prior to entering the program. I managed to keep my conservative values despite the obvious attempts by the faculty to “re-educate” me (my perception of what was being done).


23 posted on 06/09/2009 5:29:51 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: SeminoleSoldier
In some fields maybe. I can tell you that at the engineering school I graduated from the faculty were pretty conservative, as were many of the students.

In Soviet Russia during the 20's and 30's engineers were the first group the Communists went after, even before the kulaks and the church. Alexander Solzhenitsyn once remarked on how shocked he was at the number of former engineers he met in the gulags in the late 40's. Many had already been there for 15-20 years but the great majority had long ago been murdered.

24 posted on 06/09/2009 5:30:57 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: Venturer
I wish her all the bad luck in the world.

The woman is so stupid that chances are she will flunk out of college. The only way she will be eligible to perform abortions is in some back alley. I reckon she must have had an abortion, but decided to find other excuses for women having them.

25 posted on 06/09/2009 5:31:56 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: madprof98
I was 14 years old when that clinic was bombed, killing a police officer and spraying Emily’s body full of hot nails and shrapnel. Back then, I lived in a small Alabama town, went to church every Sunday and was adamantly opposed to abortion. But by the time I met Emily last year, I was president of the Birmingham chapter of Medical Students for Choice, a group supporting abortion rights. Watching her walk slowly into our fund-raiser on her husband’s arm —- a woman who’d endured more than 18 operations —- I thought of all she’d been through and knew that I’d come to the right decision in my support of reproductive rights.

Is there anyone who might be able to explain what the hell "Emily's" experiences have to do with this moron forming her opinion for supporting the killing of human life?

26 posted on 06/09/2009 5:32:27 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: madprof98

“I also envision providing abortions to women who need them.”

I presume that includes partial-birth abortions for women who decide in the 8th month of pregnancy the “fetus” has become inconvenient. Partial-birth abortion is murder anyone with a hand in this practice deserves to be put on trial. Period.


27 posted on 06/09/2009 5:33:43 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: madprof98
My parents are conservative Christians who believe abortion is wrong... In college, I designed my own major to broaden my understanding of women’s health by including psychology, sociology and women’s studies.

Parents pay money to have their kids indoctrinated.

Its not enough anymore to simply send your kids to college. You have to pay attention to which college you send them to. If they come home from four years having abandoned everything you stand for, whatever you paid it wasn't worth it. There are better colleges out there, but you have to find them.

28 posted on 06/09/2009 5:34:09 PM PDT by marron
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To: sionnsar

It was millions! Millions of woman! Cornfields full of them. Whole countries!


29 posted on 06/09/2009 5:35:13 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Huskrrrr
There are still botched abortions...no one bothers to inspect some abortion clinics.

And women still die from abortions. But it's Politically Incorrect to even mention such.

30 posted on 06/09/2009 5:35:14 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: sionnsar

Natural selection.


31 posted on 06/09/2009 5:36:55 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: madprof98

“As long as the baby remained in her mother’s womb, however, she would live. “

So, jamming scissors blades into the back of the child’s head and sucking out the cranial matter is SO much better. A special place in hell awaits.


32 posted on 06/09/2009 5:37:03 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Impeach President Soros!!!)
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To: madprof98
The answer was, not many. She could choose to continue the pregnancy, but then she might be waiting for almost 20 more weeks to give birth to a baby that would never take more than a few breaths on its own.

So in other words, Rozlyin Farmer-Love was afraid this woman would have been inconvenienced for 20 weeks.

33 posted on 06/09/2009 5:38:35 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gitmo detainees to Alcatraz!)
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To: sionnsar; madprof98
But I was stunned when one of my professors, a pathologist and a Planned Parenthood supporter, told me that decades ago, entire wings of the university’s hospital were filled with women dying from infections caused by botched abortions. It’s clear that women who don’t want to be pregnant won’t be deterred by limited access to providers or to clinics. And I believe that it’s immoral to let them die rather than provide them with safe, competent care.

It's an outright LIE!


34 posted on 06/09/2009 5:40:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Larry381
In Soviet Russia during the 20's and 30's engineers were the first group the Communists went after, even before the kulaks and the church. Alexander Solzhenitsyn once remarked on how shocked he was at the number of former engineers he met in the gulags in the late 40's. Many had already been there for 15-20 years but the great majority had long ago been murdered.

OMG, I must have been blind! I have a copy of his "The First Circle" in my collection, purchased and read long before I became a (degreed) engineer.

35 posted on 06/09/2009 5:40:15 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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To: madprof98
"My parents are conservative Christians who believe abortion is wrong. Growing up, I naturally shared their view. But I’ve also wanted to be a doctor since I was 4 years old, and in high school, I began to feel drawn to issues of women’s health. In college, I designed my own major to broaden my understanding of women’s health by including psychology, sociology and women’s studies."

Yet another reason to homeschool. This woman's story is nothing more than the widespread and predictable outcome of having a radical worldview inserted into the head of students once they were bonded to their cohort and instructors. Communist know this and that is why they control the public schools. Thing is, odds are that this woman doesn't even know she's been programed to have the values she thinks she has arrived at on her own.
36 posted on 06/09/2009 5:41:34 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Palin/Bachman 2012: Conservative Viagra)
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To: sionnsar
Don't forget the very different cultures of the times. You got knocked up back then, it was bad -- I had an 8th or 9th grade classmate who "disappeared" after she (reportedly) became pregnant; I never saw her again. Today, it's... so what?

Right. Funny how they never bring this up. Abortion has boiled down to a convenience. In normal circumstances, women who want one don't want to be bothered to carry it. So they use abortion as a means of contraception.

They don't want to be inconvenienced.

37 posted on 06/09/2009 5:41:42 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Gitmo detainees to Alcatraz!)
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To: wagglebee
I wonder what that chart would look like if one struck the word "illegal" from it and simply noted the date of Roe v Wade.

There's an old thread of an abortion clinic: "It Was Horrible, Horrible!" A First-Hand Account of... a[n]... Abortion Clinic [very graphic]. Remember this?

38 posted on 06/09/2009 5:46:49 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|"AlsoSprachTelethustra"-NonValueAdded|Lk21:36|FireTheLiar)
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39 posted on 06/09/2009 5:47:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I don’t think it’s really all that secret, though. As to the rest of the article, I’m calling it a BS puff piece timed to this Tiller thing. Pretending there are lots more abortionists ready to come into the market. I don’t think it’s true. In fact, I believe just the opposite.


40 posted on 06/09/2009 5:48:22 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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