Pro-Gun Gay Groups Take Aim at Hate Crimes Bill

The Washington Independent ^ | June 9, 2009 | David Weigel

[DesertRenegade]

One month after successfully tucking an amendment into the credit card reform bill that expanded gun rights, a small number of Senate Republicans are looking at the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act as another chance to score a victory for the Second Amendment. The possible plan — to add an amendment that would allow gun owners to carry their weapons from one state to another in accordance with concealed carry laws. The possible rationale — to defend gay rights.

“It makes sense for a group of people who would be protected by hate crime legislation to support something that would let them defend themselves before or after the crime,” said one Republican Senate aid familiar with the discussions. “It’s relevant, and we want to work together with gay groups to get the message out.”

While the aide described the discussions over a gun rights amendment to the hate crimes bill as “very fluid,” conservative and pro-gun rights gay groups outside of the Senate are ready to make a real push for it. GOProud, a new gay rights group that broke away from the Log Cabin Republicans in April, has talked with top staffers for Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) about how to make the civil rights case for conceal and carry reciprocity.

“We support this because we think it’s advantageous to make it legal and relatively easy for gay people to arm themselves so they can protect themselves,” said Jimmy LaSilva, who became the executive director of GOProud after three years working on policy for the Log Cabin Republicans. “In the next few weeks we want to start highlighting some of those stories. There are people who have averted gay bashings because of their ability to use guns.”

[DesertRenegade]

Every time I hear about these homosexual activist groups who claim to be pro-GOP, I take it with a grain of salt. Without exception, they always turn out to have an agenda based around their lifestyle choice. The so-called "Hate Crimes" bill is an absurd piece of legislation based on thought crimes and prosecuting anyone who speaks out against homosexuality. It didn't take long for this homo group 'GOProud' to show its true colors.

[jessduntno]

What else will become “transportable” across state lines????

[Blue Jays]

Don't sweat it too much. If a bill is circulated to further allow concealed carry (for everyone) it's a good thing. Democrats will be practically forced to vote in favor of expanding RKBA because they could NEVER vote against legislation that benefits gay people. It would infuriate one of their key constituencies.

"...Self-defense with a firearm is a valid and viable method of self-defense and protection,” said Gwen Patton, a spokesperson for Pink Pistols. 'Imagine that individuals follow you from a place known in the neighborhood as a GLBT gathering place. They follow you to your car, and when you try to open the door, they hold out pipes and yell — ‘Hey, faggot!’ You pull out a concealed weapon that you have a license to carry. They say, ‘He’s got a gun!’ They drop their pipes and run away. No shots were fired, but a beating was just averted...”

Sane conservatives have no desire to hurt others and we could potentially benefit from the "free ride" aspect of the legislation. As a straight person, the only change that I would realize is my carry permit that could be utilized in more states and locales. I don't see a downside based on what I read. Correct me if I missed something.

[DesertRenegade]

Here's the key quote which was cut off because it's excerpted:

If they do go the amendment route, supporters of concealed carry reciprocity are confident that it would be passed as part of a hate crimes bill, and not become a poison pill that kills the entire package. “Every Republican senator is on the record with a position on hate crimes legislation,” said GOProud’s LaSilvia. “If this were to be attached, a vote for the bill could be explained as a vote for concealed carry. Gosh — what would happen when the Family Research Council realized that their people were voting for the ‘gay bill.’ It would put a bunch of people in a really weird position. It would be fun to watch.”

In other words, this homosexual group GOProud wants to embarrass family values organizations and get this special rights bill passed. Once again, they will do anything to justify their sexual behavior and Party loyalty be damned.

[Disambiguator]

I thought this would be about the "Pink Pistols" group.

Ironically, there is a non-gay group that's all about pink called "Babes with Bullets," and the founder has a real pink pistol (a custom Tactical Solutions Pac-Lite).

[Incorrigible]

 

[Mariner]

Perhaps this could drive change to the Calif law...

[muawiyah]

The problem is with the Leftwingtards, not the GOP. I think most of us understand a bill to allow state to state reciprocity on carrying concealed weapons.

This forces the Leftwingtards to vote against their little gay friends hiding in the bushes.

[DesertRenegade]

If this is really a strategy by GOProud to defeat the special rights ‘Hate Crimes Bill’ also known as the ‘Pedophile Protection Act’, then I commend them. But in their own words, they say they are trying to get the Bill passed. I don’t agree with that.

[2nd Bn, 11th Mar]

I’m sorry. As a relic, a dinosaur, a reactionary - guns are supposed to be blued steel and walnut. Stainless steel and plastic are marginal, at best.

Call me over-the-hill, call me what you will.

[Jeff Gordon]

I'll bet most of shots break high.

(Sorry. This is an inside joke that only serious pistol shooters would understand.)

[Shooter 2.5]

I guess you’ll have to explain the joke since I have too much fun to call myself a serious shooter.

[Sinschild]

Limp wristed shots will break high