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They have real customers, people that work but don’t want to live in high-density high-tax NYC, so it’s not a boondoggle. It’s a logical increase in capacity, driven by a dislike of leftist life in NYC. I don’t understand your hostility. It’s pro-family and will increase NJ property values. I moved to NJ last year for job reasons and recently bought a house that is walking distance to a NJ commuter train station into Manhattan, so I’m biased the other way. I’d be anti-growth if NJ was a beautiful Shangri la where I wanted to retire, but it was paved over long ago.


20 posted on 06/08/2009 6:41:45 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses
They have real customers, people that work but don’t want to live in high-density high-tax NYC, so it’s not a boondoggle. It’s a logical increase in capacity, driven by a dislike of leftist life in NYC. I don’t understand your hostility. It’s pro-family and will increase NJ property values. I moved to NJ last year for job reasons and recently bought a house that is walking distance to a NJ commuter train station into Manhattan, so I’m biased the other way.

I didn't say that no one rode a train. I said no one I know rides the train. You already ride you said. So how is the new tunnel going to help you? Do you get a seat? Does anyone stand on your train? I don't know.

You also said you haven't been here long. So you might not be aware that NJ has been drawing businesses away from NYC because of the congestion and high rents there. If it becomes easier to travel into NYC some of that impetus goes away.

But I don't think it will become easier to get into NYC. This new tunnel is a boondoggle of historic proportion. They say it's been on the drawing board for 15 years, so obviously it's been rejected quite a few times by now. There's a reason.

Figure out how many new riders you think it might draw and divide it into $8.7 bil PLUS the cost of the new infrastructure to support the new riders and let me know how many centuries it will be before it even SEEMS like a good deal.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 06/08/2009 7:01:02 PM PDT by ml/nj
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