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Laura explains Bush 'silence' Defends Cheney
Politico ^ | 6/08.09 | By CAROL E. LEE

Posted on 06/08/2009 6:58:16 AM PDT by meandog

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To: editor-surveyor

Some did, many didn’t, and these ladies had to suffer their bile against the President.


321 posted on 06/09/2009 4:50:16 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
I wasn't around in January.

But the bile and hatred here against President Bush was so extreme by 2007, that a large number of intelligent, thoughtful supporters of President Bush silently slipped away in disgust.

As I see it, it was like a big high school filled with immature jocks. If you supported the 'geek' you were ridiculed. The 'geek' was treated without mercy. It was an untenable situation for many.

Far more important than how Bush supporters felt about how they were treated here (and obviously still are by far too many) was that it was awful to read post after post of mindless hatred and name-calling against a man we KNEW to be decent, courageous and a true patriot.

President Bush is honorable. Those who hate him are not.

322 posted on 06/09/2009 5:35:18 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
That all you got a--hole?

You censored yourself.

There is that more Anglo-Saxon for you?

It depends. Did you at least have the courtesy to pull up your pants and turn your ball cap forward?

323 posted on 06/09/2009 8:00:27 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants
Once again your assumptions make you wrong and still an a—hole.
324 posted on 06/09/2009 8:08:04 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: mad_as_he$$
It's Latin so I know you can't but the internet can help you translate it - wow isn't it interesting that a person you think was dropped on their head can read and write Latin.

Profundus Maximus, is that you?

325 posted on 06/09/2009 8:15:57 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: ohioWfan

Accepted.


326 posted on 06/10/2009 4:52:56 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: meandog

bwwwhhhhhaaaaaa....
Ok, whatever floats your boat! You people cease to amaze me, or disappoint me! Heaven’s sake....


327 posted on 06/10/2009 2:49:49 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: editor-surveyor

It might surprise you, but I am aware of that! Whatever does that have to do with anything? That’s one of the very things I admire the most about him, his happy relationship with his wife! So what was the meaning of that comment?


328 posted on 06/10/2009 2:53:14 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: dsutah

You go first. Explain yours.


329 posted on 06/10/2009 3:04:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: dsutah
bwwwhhhhhaaaaaa.... Ok, whatever floats your boat! You people cease to amaze me, or disappoint me! Heaven’s sake,<.i>

You're disappointed in us? What about a man who came into the presidency promising a return to Reaganomics but lacked the testicular fortitude to cast even one veto against his high-spending party in his first term. Are you also forgetting that for a period of about five months after 9-11 he enjoyed unprecedented popularity (at one time nearly 76%)? Yet, in a repeat of his "Read My Lips" daddy--who somehow pulled stalemate out of assured victory in Gulf War I--instead wasted that popularity on failure to quickly stem anarchy, looting and terrorism in Iraq. It was only after "uh, ah guess we tuk a thumpin'" in the 2006 mid-term election that this very same failure finally was persuaded by an extremely capable warfighter (Gen. David Petraeus) to ignore the advice of Donald Dumbsfeld and initiate the surge that finally won the war. Bbbwwwhaaaaaa, indeed!

330 posted on 06/10/2009 5:11:02 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: meandog

No, the first gulf war wasn’t a stalemate. It was a multinational effort with specific goals and the goals were achived. Saddam was forced to sign a one-sided cease fire agreement. He violated the agreement and these violations led to the second gulf war. But don’t worry, even though GW Bush successfully led the second multinational effort to remove Saddam and create a free Iraq, you can always whine about trivial things like looting...oh wait, you already did.


331 posted on 06/10/2009 6:11:22 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants
No, the first gulf war wasn’t a stalemate. It was a multinational effort with specific goals and the goals were achived. Saddam was forced to sign a one-sided cease fire agreement. He violated the agreement and these violations led to the second gulf war. But don’t worry, even though GW Bush successfully led the second multinational effort to remove Saddam and create a free Iraq, you can always whine about trivial things like looting...oh wait, you already did.

There's an old Napoleonic maxim about warfare, it goes: When you set out to take Vienna, Take Vienna! Saddam Hussein was every bit the brutal dictator that Adolph Hitler was. He executed a genocide against thousands of Kurds with gas, he and his sons raped women in his infamous "Perfume Palace," his secret police were the epitome of the Gestapo in murdering innocent Iraqis...yet, he was let loose. Can you really imagine that we would have let Hitler go?

BTW, looting and anarchy are not "trivial things"...they led directly to a lack of law and order and the rise of insurgent terrorism that was responsible for the deaths of many of our troops.

332 posted on 06/10/2009 6:29:27 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: meandog
You claimed that the first gulf war was a stalemate, yet the alliance achived their objectives and Saddam was forced to sign a one-sided cease fire agreement. Your non-sequitur arguments don't compensate for your foolish revisionist claim that the first gulf war ended in a stalemate. Even your new arguments make no sense. During WWII, the objective was Germany's unconditional surrender. The allaince against Saddam during the first gulf war never had this objective. I could go on in detail about the differences between WWII and the first gulf war, but you would just continue with more fallacious non sequitors instead of addressing your original goofy claim that the first gulf war ended in a stalemate.

BTW, looting and anarchy are not "trivial things"...they led directly...

Going by your logic, if it weren't for the looting, there would have been no post war terrorism in Iraq, since the looting 'led directly' to terrorism. These foolish non sequitors are boring. That's the sucky thing about you people. On one hand, I don't have to go to other web sites to argue with partisan leftists because people like you reside here...but on the other hand, you have to attempt to hide who you are, which limits your weaponry and makes you boring.

333 posted on 06/10/2009 7:07:31 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: meandog

If you had really read what I posted, you would’ve noticed I said “you people CEASE to amaze me”! In other words, you don’t disappoint me anymore; I know exactly what you are going to say. I’d faint if you said anything really nice about Pres. Bush! In fact, It would actually scare me if you praised him very much about anything!

Next time, read more closely before you make any snotty replies, huh? I might actually take you more seriously. Even if I might not agree with you, I would have a lot more respect for your views!


334 posted on 06/10/2009 7:52:17 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: meandog

I really don’t care what you think of me. I don’t come for your amusement, either!


335 posted on 06/10/2009 7:54:11 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: editor-surveyor

You think I’M having a tantrum? LOL! Imagine that! No, I can’t really get mad at some of you; I feel sorry for a lot of you! Of all the things the new pres. and his Marxist friends are doing/may do to our country, and some of you are still attacking Pres. Bush and his supporters!

I have news for you; in case you hadn’t noticed, Pres. Bush is gone! He’s not in power now. He’s not the boogeyman out to get you, either. It’s OK to let go of him now, let him retire in peace! We really need to decide how we are going to stop our new Pres. and the shadow government behind him.

You can carry on and on about things Bush did wrong and how you dislike him. We know how some of you Bush-bashers feel about him. It’s getting tiresome! But Bashing G. W. Bush and his supporters isn’t going to help our country, now will it?


336 posted on 06/10/2009 8:16:00 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: dsutah
"and some of you are still attacking Pres. Bush and his supporters!"

I am one of his supporters oh brilliant one!

But that doesn't mean that I abandon logic and reality. He does have a duty to inform the nation. A president's job is not to keep people in the dark.

337 posted on 06/10/2009 8:22:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ohioWfan

Amen, beautifully done! I couldn’t have said it any better! It seemed that in the last 3 years, more and more of his defenders were gone. That’s probably why there seemed to be so many more bashers here!

I couldn’t believe how things had changed around here! It was just sad! Maddening too. Oh, there still were some of his old defenders around getting into their faces. But I wondered where most of his supporters had gone. Now I know!


338 posted on 06/10/2009 8:36:08 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: editor-surveyor

Were you one of his supporters? You could’ve fooled me! You say you are/were a supporter, then you proceed to trash him some more! Ok, maybe not as much as a few other people on here, but most of what you write about him is negative. One would get the impression you didn’t support him, ever!


339 posted on 06/10/2009 8:48:49 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: dsutah

Re-read


340 posted on 06/10/2009 9:46:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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