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Iraqi forces arrest five U.S. security contractors
Reuters via Yahoo News ^ | June 7, 2009 | Waleed Ibrahim

Posted on 06/07/2009 11:42:10 AM PDT by Allegra

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Yikes...
1 posted on 06/07/2009 11:42:10 AM PDT by Allegra
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To: Allegra

Yep sent that around the neighborhood.......:o)


2 posted on 06/07/2009 11:44:25 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Allegra

Any word on which contractor it is? KBR?

IIRC, Xe (Former blackwater) is all done there, a new “security” company has taken over.

Anyone you know?

Stay safe!


3 posted on 06/07/2009 11:47:23 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Allegra
Private contractors, previously immune to prosecution in Iraq, are now wholly bound by Iraqi laws.

This is a new agreement? When and who signed off on it and why? Who all does it include? Why is the murder an FBI investigation?

4 posted on 06/07/2009 11:53:47 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Any word on which contractor it is? KBR?

It's not KBR. I know who the company is, but I have a rule that if the news isn't saying anything, I'd better not.

I remember when they found the guy's body a couple of weeks ago and everyone pretty much thought some terrorist must have somehow gotten into the IZ.

I don't think I know any of these five guys. It would be weird if these guys got found guilty...and we have to wonder what the punishment would be. The Iraqis aren't quite as soft on crime as our leftist leaders are.

By the way, my typing sucks, too. ;-)

5 posted on 06/07/2009 11:54:03 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Allegra

What’s the Iraqi law on prisoner exchanges?


6 posted on 06/07/2009 11:54:40 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: bgill
This is a new agreement? When and who signed off on it and why?

The Security of Forces Act (SOFA) signed late November of last year by the US and Iraq.

The FBI has a presence in the IZ (and a pretty cool bar on their compound.) They are there for various reasons in association with US interests, as is our Embassy.

7 posted on 06/07/2009 11:56:43 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Allegra
You stay safe over there
8 posted on 06/07/2009 11:58:47 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Allegra

Probably ‘roid rage.


9 posted on 06/07/2009 12:05:30 PM PDT by lt.america (Looking for a bailout)
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To: Allegra

This is a completely bizarre story. The guy was found bound, gagged and stabbed to death!!! This may be a common form of murder by some segments of our society, but not many.

So do these American fellow contractor suspects have IQs of 75 that they would go about this nefarious business in a manner that makes them look like members of a drug cartel?

The story says nothing of why these men might want to murder the other or what led to them being suspected. My “what the hell” meter is going bonkers.


10 posted on 06/07/2009 12:14:38 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Allegra

Why is the FBI outside our borders? Ok, these contractors are not with the US military so the military can’t investigate. Yes, they’re private but they’re still working in conjunction with the US gov’t. Not that anyone asked me, but I don’t particularly care that a foreign country has so much judicial power over them. One more step and they’ll be arresting our soldiers.


11 posted on 06/07/2009 12:17:47 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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Condi Rice was behind this one, agreed to in December 2008 I think.


12 posted on 06/07/2009 12:23:36 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: bgill
Why is the FBI outside our borders? Ok, these contractors are not with the US military so the military can’t investigate. Yes, they’re private but they’re still working in conjunction with the US gov’t. Not that anyone asked me, but I don’t particularly care that a foreign country has so much judicial power over them. One more step and they’ll be arresting our soldiers.

I do not make the laws here. (OK, I did contribute to the development of their national Procurement Law in 2007, but there it stops.)

I have visited many foreign countries on business prior to coming to the Middle East and was always subject to those countries' laws when I was there. Only diplomatic personnel have immunity. Foreign visitors to our own country are subject to US laws when on our soil.

It's late and I'm starting to nod off, but here is the text of the Status of Forces Agreement - US - Iraq that was executed late last year.

13 posted on 06/07/2009 12:37:11 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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Why is the FBI outside our borders?

For lots of reasons. It's pretty much standard practice to have a Fibby in our Embassies along with a CIA Station Chief.

14 posted on 06/07/2009 12:39:01 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Bahbah
So do these American fellow contractor suspects have IQs of 75 that they would go about this nefarious business in a manner that makes them look like members of a drug cartel?

I don't know any of the people who were arrested and have little more information than the media does at this point.

I can tell you that while most PSDs are very decent and level-headed people, there are some who pump up on steriods, thump their chests a lot and act like complete asshats.

15 posted on 06/07/2009 12:40:27 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Allegra

LOL. You have great descriptive abilities.


16 posted on 06/07/2009 12:44:43 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: bgill

FBI has been overseas in the AmEmbs since before WWII.

Counter-Intelligence is part of their job.

Liaison with local police in multi-national criminal activities, including identifying and tracking money laundering is also part of their job.

Also, the Embassy grounds are Federal territory of the US. FBI jurisdiction for major investigations.

FBI Agents in the embassys are called Legal Attaches.


17 posted on 06/07/2009 1:27:27 PM PDT by DJ Elliott
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To: Allegra

They mentioned the company name in the news this morning, it’s a security company out of NC, not Xe(blackwater).

I’d be proud if my typing only sucked as bad as yours!

Stay safe.


18 posted on 06/08/2009 4:08:27 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Bahbah
This is a completely bizarre story. The guy was found bound, gagged and stabbed to death!!! This may be a common form of murder by some segments of our society, but not many.

The company that was doing most of the IZ security last time I was there was Triple Canopy. The rank and file guards there are from Latin America, the leadership is U.S. Being a dirty contractor myself, I found my Spanish coming in handy when needing to speak to the guards there.

So, not to make assumptions, but to further your point, it is unusual. Bound, gagged and stabbed may be uncommon up north, but possibly something that the guys from down south pulled on a supervisor they didn't like. Kind of a silent fragging? You don't want to go shooting someone in the Green Zone, or you'll have security beating down your door in no time. The stabbing makes sense, in that regard.

But why? Again, I'm a little more suspicious of the mercenary muscle hired from South America than I am the guy's co-workers. But that's just me. Maybe the other guys were up to something (embezzling?), and he was going to rat?

19 posted on 06/08/2009 4:17:36 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Oh, well. Back to the drawing board....)
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Most interesting information. Thanks.


20 posted on 06/08/2009 4:25:41 AM PDT by Bahbah
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