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Born identity Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations
The Honolulu Star Bulletin ^ | June 6, 2009 | June Watanabe

Posted on 06/06/2009 3:46:22 PM PDT by jamese777

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To: Star Traveler

I wouldn’t count on it. LOL


21 posted on 06/06/2009 4:05:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

All I was doing was simply “translating” the article... :-)


22 posted on 06/06/2009 4:06:12 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Typical_Whitey
I would like to Donate 1 million dollars to charity in the name of the Doctor that birthed Obama. No one seems to know exactly who that man is.


23 posted on 06/06/2009 4:07:39 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante
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To: dennisw

Now.., dennisw, are you trying to cause trouble on this thread? LOL...


24 posted on 06/06/2009 4:07:50 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: null and void
It looks like they are saying we have all the information, but you can’t see it. neener neener neener

Exactly what I thought, and figured a while ago when Hawaii locked Obama's Birth records. There must be something on there that has to be kept hidden for some reason. When he was asked to produce a Birth Certificate, he must have contacted the state and received the new "adjusted" type.

Still, I wonder...why is his race described as "African," as African is not a race. Black is a race, such as White is a race. And, Obama is not of African heritage but Arabic heritage and they lived in Africa.

This whole issue is clouded in a fog, on purpose, evidently, and maybe not (initially) for any political reason but something that was embarassing to the family. I think the grandparent's had some reason to have this fraud done long ago, and maybe Obama never knew really what his heritage was until he started investigating. Or maybe his mother became pregnant before his father was divorced from his previous wife. Who knows...but, perhaps that is why he hates White people so much. His white mother had some secret and then left him, his white grandparents hid the secret and lied to him. Could make a child a bit paranoid.

25 posted on 06/06/2009 4:08:13 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: CitizenM

Yes, Obama had a troubled family, and grew up as a trouble child and has now become a troubled adult... :-)


26 posted on 06/06/2009 4:09:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: jamese777

Think about all the FR obamanoids who chided birthers with ‘the Republican governor sealed his long form birth certificate.’ The dissonance is rising as the obamanoid affirmative action figure administration has pressure to release actaul legitimate proof brought to bear on them. What has been ‘released’ by the lying bastard is a forgery, a complete fraud from the start.


27 posted on 06/06/2009 4:10:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: jamese777

Story is complete rubbish.

Obama’s ORIGINAL birth records have been sealed by the state of Hawaii. This “Certification of Live Birth” discussed in the article is not a substitute for the original birth certificate which they have on file and are sealed.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=79174


28 posted on 06/06/2009 4:10:50 PM PDT by motoman
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To: Safrguns

This is where the issue of passports, college records, etc. come into play. As I understand it, the only documents that have been released besides the COB are his Indonesian Elementary School Registration form and a questionable draft registration card....


29 posted on 06/06/2009 4:13:07 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it is free PJ Orourke)
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To: motoman

You said — Story is complete rubbish.

Maybe it is... but, if so, then you are saying that this statement below is also “rubbish” and thus not true?


Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”


Just wondering where that is not true. It would be interesting to document that and where it’s not true.


30 posted on 06/06/2009 4:14:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: bushwon; Polarik

Sorry, so far there is no legitimate CoLB that anyone can point to. The thing posted on the Internet has been exposed as a fraud and not even a particularly good forgery.


31 posted on 06/06/2009 4:17:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Star Traveler

A “certification of live birth” can include births which were subsequently registered in the state of Hawaii for infants up to 1 year of age (a policy which was available in Hawaii up until 1982).

Okubu has never, in any form, ever stated that whatever Obama has SEALED on file in Hawaii would fullfill the definition of a “natural born citizen” as defined by our constitution.

...the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”....

The above statement has nothing to do with the question of meeting elligibility standards to hold Office of the President.


32 posted on 06/06/2009 4:20:58 PM PDT by motoman
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To: cripplecreek

Translation: We converted all the old Birth Certificates into electronic facsimile “Certifications” and then destroyed the originals. Tough noogies..


33 posted on 06/06/2009 4:23:51 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: motoman

You said — The above statement has nothing to do with the question of meeting elligibility standards to hold Office of the President.

So you say, but they said...

“... meeting all federal and other requirements.”

And that, I would say, is the crux of the problem (in terms of this particular discussion and thread) — in that they used the word “all”...

My understanding of the word “all” would be that it includes the office of President of the United States, too.


34 posted on 06/06/2009 4:24:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Last I heard, he and Vince Foster are roomies.


35 posted on 06/06/2009 4:24:44 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Star Traveler

Just release the document which is sealed, and on file with the state of Hawaii that simply shows the name and location of the Hospital.

Every other state issues birth certificates with this detail if requested. So does Hawaii, and whoever wrote this article completely glossed over these vital details.

More slight of hand by Obamabots to diffuse the every growing outrage about this fraud of a president.


36 posted on 06/06/2009 4:25:51 PM PDT by motoman
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To: motoman

I’m just trying to find out where that statement by the official from the State of Hawaii is wrong. Either it does apply to “all” or it doesn’t.

And if it doesn’t apply to “all” federal requirements, then that state official needs to be “called on the carpet” and he needs to change his statement. If he doesn’t change his statement, then that obviously means that he’s right.

I would like to find out which way it’s going to go.

Let me know when he changes his official statement for the State of Hawaii...


37 posted on 06/06/2009 4:28:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Costumed Vigilante

That may be the answer to all our problems - his birth certificate is hidden because he’s only 8 years old, and thus too young to serve!
(sarcasm, here)


38 posted on 06/06/2009 4:28:49 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: MHGinTN

Oh I did not mean to imply that it was legit (which I doubt it was)—just that it was released :(


39 posted on 06/06/2009 4:30:07 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If you think health care is expensive now, just wait till it is free PJ Orourke)
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To: Star Traveler

All I was doing was simply “translating” the article... :-)
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Yea sure you were. You are hoping your KENYAN MARXIST boy is never exposed.


40 posted on 06/06/2009 4:31:15 PM PDT by mojitojoe (The American Revolution: 70% of the people were loyal to the King, The other 30% founded a nation.)
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