Posted on 06/06/2009 6:24:20 AM PDT by Zakeet
>> Not only is it legal to kill the fetus, people glorify and profit from the process of killing it - it is celebrated as a gift by some.
Not only is it legal to kill the fetus, people glorify and profit from the process of killing the fetus - abortion is celebrated as a gift by some.
Banning idiots that drag the enterprise down from a privately held forum wouldn't be censorship. It would be fumigation. Sometimes it's better to let fools have their say, so they can start using big words like "fascist" (which they obviously don't understand at all), provide entertainment, and discredit themselves. The problem is, in this case, they (you) discredit anybody that cares about the sanctity of life. They (you) become a tool of the left. Why are you wasting your time here "tough guy". Don't you have an abortionist to shoot?
Those of you lurkers and posters who claim that ABORTION IS MURDER, but think you are not in some way culpable in the death of Tiller, are you just uttering IDLE WORDS
And that is an absurd statement. I have my own sins to worry about, but being "culpable in the death of Tiller" sure as hell is not one of them.
As usual you read me wrong.
"As usual?" I'm trying my best.
By the way, congratulations on your new grandson!
Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ, and thank you for your encouragements!
Who said it was a "sin"?
"He shall redeem their soul from deceit and violence: and precious shall their blood be in his sight." -- Psalms 72:14
Whatever, a$$hole, I’m not going anywhere.
Also, I’m not going to bother to read anything you write to me. Get me, I’m gonna censor your a$$.
I'm against smoking. I hate it and think it's disgusting.
I think killing this doctor is as equally disgusting and wrong
Do you think smoking is equally as disgusting?
Yep. We've seen this scenario too many times not to believe we're being played once again.
Please stick to the precise question. You and I, "culpable in the death of Tiller?"
>> Yep. We’ve seen this scenario too many times not to believe we’re being played once again.
Many attribute the Pro-Life movement as nothing more than an extension of right-wing, Christian ideology and thereby dismiss the Life cause as trivial dogma. Such blighted perceptions obscure the simpler reality of the unborn child’s existence and vulnerability.
There’s a fundamental problem in the discourse concerning abortion - primarily, it’s God’s problem, which for many translates to no problem at all. I don’t believe it’s God’s problem. It’s a problem for humanity, and the grotesque assault on fellow human newbies needs illumination in the secular setting.
I've been meditating on your line of reasoning. My understanding is that to whatever extent people have been claiming that abortion is "murder" that those same people are complicit in causing Roeder to murder Tiller to prevent more murders, i.e. "justifiable homicide."
Personally, I do not believe the end justifies the means. And yet I do recall the story of a man on a hunting trip, stopping along the way, and using the scope on his rifle to check out the land, spotted a guy fixing to execute a trooper. What else could he do but murder the guy? I cannot fathom any jury finding such a man guilty of first degree murder - or any prosecutor foolish enough to seek such a finding.
As for me, I know I have called abortion killing though I don't remember whether I've used the word "murder." But the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" interprets to "don't willfully murder an innocent person."
But murder under God's Law is not necessarily the same as murder under the laws and language of men.
In the case at hand, the courts, media and pro-abortion side are careful to call the unborn child, even a viable child, a fetus - and the killing, a medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy. But dehumanizing the unborn does not make it so, nor does using a substitute phrase making killing any less than what it is.
And if the courts tomorrow decide that anyone over the age of 80 is no longer a human but a "useless eater" that does not make it truth. Likewise if the courts decide that putting a "useless eater" down is not murder but culling, that does not make it truth.
Personally, I do not feel like I am complicit in Roeder's actions by accurately describing what abortion "is" under God's Law - I am merely speaking truth. If anything, I am the scope on the rifle.
There is no blood on my hands.
There are MANY people who lurk at FR. Yes, he may be "preaching to the choir here" but there are many who "come here" that need to be preached to.
"There have been no late term abortions in Kansas since 5/31/09."
Excellent response!
Amen!
xzin-I couldn't even fake being sorry that Tiller is dead.
Amen!
All men, Christian or not, do evil things simply because God removes His hand of grace from them leaving them to follow their own devices. Our nature is evil and left to ourselves we will produce evil fruit. If anything, Tiller and Roeder serves to show to what level we can sink if it were not for God's substaining hand.
1Pe 4:15 Make sure that none of you suffers as a murderer, or thief, or evildoer, or a troublesome meddler;
“The Luthern church is pretty liberal”
Which is exactly why I left. I am now “homeless”. I understand that some sects are now allowing gay “pastors”.
There is a principle of Divine reciprocity.
Matt. 7:2, For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Ps. 109:6, Set thou a wicked man over him:
Prov. 14:32, The wicked is driven away in his wickedness:
We do not think it unusual when in the drug culture or the prison culture, each culture’s form of justice is meted out mercilessly. Why then is this no different in the culture of death?
Matthew 7:15-16..... "Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep's covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits YOU will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they?"
I stand by my comments posted in the article and of those like minded freepreers.
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