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A Moral Civil War: The Truth Is Millions Of Americans Believe Dr 'Baby Killer' Tiller Deserved To ..
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | June 05, 2009

Posted on 06/05/2009 10:14:07 PM PDT by Steelfish

A moral civil war: The truth is millions of Americans believe Dr 'Baby Killer' Tiller deserved to die

By DAVID JONES 06th June 2009

Somewhere beside a busy freeway in the dreary suburbs of Wichita, Kansas, there stands an anonymous, single-storey building. Its cream walls are stained by exhaust fumes and it has no external windows.

Guarded night and day by a private security patrol and CCTV cameras, and surrounded by 'No Trespassing' signs, it could be a top-security prison.

As vandals have spattered the perimeter fence with something that looks like congealed blood, it might equally be a laboratory where animal experiments are conducted.

In reality, this forbidding breeze-block rectangle is an abortion clinic - one of the most pitiful places in America.

Trading under the innocuous name of Women's Health Care Services, for more than 30 years it has served as the last resort for a wretched procession of expectant mothers who have felt compelled to terminate their pregnancies at such a late stage that the mainstream U.S. medical profession has refused to help them.

Braving a gauntlet of howling protesters who keep a daily vigil outside the clinic, banging on their car windows and brandishing gruesome placards depicting dismembered foetuses, they have journeyed here in their thousands from all over America and even abroad.

Clutching overnight bags and often wearing clothing to disguise their condition, they range from schoolgirl rape victims to far more questionable cases, such as those who claim to be suffering from depression.

They came here because they knew that Dr George Tiller, the clinic's controversial founder, seldom turned anyone away. Operating on the extreme edge of the minefield that is U.S. abortion law, his only stipulation was that clients must settle his $6,000 (£3,700) fee in full and up-front before he donned his

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortionists; georgetiller; tiller
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To: DoughtyOne
I'm glad Tiller is dead, and to be perfectly honest with you I can't even say I register mild disapproval of how it happened.

L

21 posted on 06/06/2009 12:00:40 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Steelfish

What kind of idiot would write this trash. This person is so far off base; it’s unbelievable.


22 posted on 06/06/2009 12:01:26 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Lurker

I am glad the abortions he performed will come to an end. I am not glad he is dead. I do not approve of how his life was ended.

We can’t proclaim to be law and order, then wink and nod when a murder advances our cause.

If we can do it, then the left can wink and nod when murders further their cause.

I’m not trying to tell others what they should think about this. I’m simply trying to be the voice of reason here.

I do realize some folks will think I’m being very unreasonable about it though.

;-)


23 posted on 06/06/2009 12:08:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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Marked to read later


24 posted on 06/06/2009 12:12:28 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: DoughtyOne
I am not glad he is dead. I do not approve of how his life was ended.

Really? I am, and quite honestly I do approve. I'll explain why in just a moment.

We can’t proclaim to be law and order, then wink and nod when a murder advances our cause.

I don't proclaim to be 'law and order'. At one time it was perfectly lawful to for human being to own another. What's your point?

I’m simply trying to be the voice of reason here.

Really? I don't believe you've used reason at all.

L

25 posted on 06/06/2009 12:19:37 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Steelfish

At $5000 per, the Tiller abortion emporium is a goldmine. A new Sweeney Todd will take over


26 posted on 06/06/2009 12:30:26 AM PDT by dennisw (Weakness is a Crime! Don't be a Criminal - Bernarr MacFadden)
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To: Lurker

Do you approve of the two recruiters being gunned down the other day?

I doubt you do. The left does.

So what you are saying, is that you think it’s perfectly okay for us to just go out and gun down people we disagree with.

I don’t. When you open it up to judge and jury party time for individual citizens, you’ll be just as vulnerable as any person you think might actually deserve it.

That’s not a good situation.


27 posted on 06/06/2009 12:32:24 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: Steelfish

In the old days when the nation had morals, he would have been put before a jury and hanged for killing the innocent.

So much for morality.

blessings, Bobo


28 posted on 06/06/2009 12:34:53 AM PDT by bobo1
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To: DoughtyOne
Do you approve of the two recruiters being gunned down the other day?

Remind me will you please? How many abortions did those soldiers perform? Because I really don't see what one case has to do with the other.

In Tiller's case we have a man who, after attending his 'church' was going to go to work on Monday and kill a few babies.

Those soldiers were going to go to work on Monday and sign willing volunteers into the US Military.

What the f*** does one case have to do with the other?

L

29 posted on 06/06/2009 12:39:23 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker; DoughtyOne

God did what He had to do, we having tied ourselves in knots.


30 posted on 06/06/2009 12:46:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Steelfish

This is from the UK. So unless he’s going to give us a review of Sharia law on this situation, he’s irrelevent.


31 posted on 06/06/2009 1:00:35 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: DoughtyOne
So what you are saying, is that you think it’s perfectly okay for us to just go out and gun down people we disagree with.

Do me a favor. Look at these images below.

Fourth Baby

That fourth baby .... how is that one any different that these other three?

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

32 posted on 06/06/2009 1:11:18 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Out of gas become a pill box, Out of ammo become a bunker, Out of hope become a hero.)
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To: Lurker

You’re making the same mistake people did several days ago, on another thread. I don’t personally think they are equivocal at all. I join you in that premise. Sadly, you and I don’t get the make the rules, when it comes to how the left sees it morally.

The left is convinced the recruiters entice young people to fight in evil wars and thereby get them killed or maimed. I don’t agree with that view, but then they aren’t going to run their plans by me for moral direction.

We need to let the courts sort this type of stuff out. Otherwise it’s open season on people with good morals, as well as those with poor morals.

For that reason, I still believe it is a very poor premise to take the law into our own hands because we feel it is warranted.


33 posted on 06/06/2009 1:58:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Be very careful what you attribute to God. God didn’t need a guy with known mental problems to have His will be done.


34 posted on 06/06/2009 2:00:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Millions of American powerless peons are applauding how Tiller went out. A heart attack, an auto accident or even a stroke of lightning do not have the same public impact. This kind of drama has been employed by the Lord in biblical times. He chose Roeder for a reason.


35 posted on 06/06/2009 2:05:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Centurion2000

There’s no difference, except one was evilly aborted.

As for your comment about evil, don’t you realize that some people think war is evil, and those who recruit our youth are thereby evil. I don’t agree with that, but then I am not going to be able to talk sense into those people.

We either abide by the law, or we allow open season killings to become the norm. And then frankly, all bets are off.


36 posted on 06/06/2009 2:06:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If it is okay for us to state that God wanted this done, and so Reoder is a big hero, then what’s to stop the left from saying God wanted those evil warmonger recruiters dead, and the guy that killed them is a big hero?

If you think you’re going to be able to do this in a vacuum, and the left will never start playing the same game with folks we respect, then you’re just not thinking this all the way through.

We cannot take the law into our own hands. If gunning down people on the street is okay, then a lot of people you respect are going to be gunned down.


37 posted on 06/06/2009 2:10:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Your second premise, that Roeder has to have been a “hero,” is wrong. The Lord used damned unbelievers to punish Israel many a time, including once when a random arrow from one hit a rotten Jewish king. The fact that Roeder was nuts parallels the random arrow.


38 posted on 06/06/2009 2:14:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t think the Lord was using Roeder. I think Roeder was somewhat unhinged. He reasoned that killing Tiller was a good thing to do.

I’m not faulting your premise, but to me it’s impossible to know God’s will on this. If he wanted Tiller dead, He could have stopped Tiller’s ticker any time He wanted without Roeder.


39 posted on 06/06/2009 2:20:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama post 09/11. The U.S. is sorry, we are a Muslim nation, and we surrender.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Lord uses every single person every single day.


40 posted on 06/06/2009 2:23:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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