Posted on 06/05/2009 5:35:39 AM PDT by SJackson
62 years old? Be careful about your “facts”. There is a very recent photo of Obama and his uncle, who was an associate librarian of some sort at U/Chicago for many years. Probably was Messiah’s connection to get him the adjunct teaching job there. I wonder what his politics were.
There are 3 different “Charles Payne’s” from Kansas that are all mixed up with each other in these “debunkings.”
From cashill.com:
Obama also gave his belated approval to World War II and sang the praises of his grandfather, who fought in Patton’s army and “heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka.”By Memorial Day 2008, however, Obama was claiming that it was his “uncle” who was “part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz.”
When reminded that his mother was an only child and his father a Kenyan, Obama designated his “great uncle” as the liberator of Auschwitz.
This proved problematic as well because Auschwitz, as the Republican National Committee gleefully pointed out, was actually liberated by the Russians.
I don't think it would have impacted the war effort at all. The concern, which is well documents back to the 1930s, was that Americans (and pre war Euros) would be sympathetic to the Jews plight, which might lead to Jewish refugees being allowed into western countries, a big no no. They might have been right, though other than the US and the US it wouldn't have mattered. Publicity might have made the Brits refusal to allow Jews to migrate to Palestine untenable. Simple pressure from the US could have done that easily once the war began. As to Ike, this was a political decision, not his. And by most accounts he was as shocked as his troops.
Doubt it, he's still alive and kicking. Seems to keep a very low profile for an Obama family member, didn't even get invited on this jaunt though he was willing to go.
This is BS. When he first mentioned this he was questioned and it took his campaign two days to come up with a realtive with a similar name to one of the liberators. This is one of those situations where the media rubs your nose in their ability to just make up history unquestioned.
he’s just saying that to grab a headline to aid in establishing the lie.
Where’s the tv interview with the great-uncle?
He’s done a couple newspaper interviews, there’s a link in post 10 to one of them. I don’t think he’s on Obama’s good side, if he were, he’d be on BHO’s magical European tour. He’ll be on TV when his destitute step-brother and his illegal immigrant aunt are.
The confusion is with 0bama claiming it was his uncle, then his great-uncle, etc.
A meeting of the American, British, and Soviet foreign ministers in Moscow in October 1943 issued a statement threatening postwar punishment for Nazi war crimes against conquered populations. It mentioned "French, Dutch, Belgian or Norwegian hostages ...Cretan peasants ... the people of Poland" but not Jews. In a similar spirit, General Eisenhower himself removed all references to Jews from a leaflet the Allies air-dropped over Europe in September 1944, threatening to punish anyone who collaborated in Nazi atrocities against civilians. Even President Roosevelt's 1944 message commemorating the first anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto revolt -- a rebellion by Jewish fighters -- did not mention the Jews. Arthur Szyk, the famous artist and Holocaust rescue activist, remarked bitterly that Europe's Jews were being "treat[ed] as a pornographical subject you cannot discuss it in polite society."
Actually, it was worse than that. His uncle Charley Payne was in the Navy, according to the article, and therefore was unlikely to have liberated ANY German concentration camp.
I read an article on Freerepublic recently that exposed this claim as a lie.
I knew I should have bookmarked what I think I may have read on FR. Perhaps this might be a bit of a clarification. A former soldier posted with the insignia of his military unit, his knowledge of that camp.
As I found out about things later, there seemed to be the front line soldiers who went into the attack. Their chances were of being killed or injured, even at a late date being taken prisoner. The poster was in that group. Now, a very necessary part of a successful occupation were the "second string" troops. Absolutely no denigration of these soldiers on my part.
The British called them "holding battalions". I was told many years ago, when being assailed in Canada by men who served. They were pretty rude about the British Army. Someone told me, not to take any notice. They said the one's more likely to draw attention to the glory, they shared, were the second string troops who came in after the job was done. The real front line men, were likely to be very reticent about their hard fighting. This I find to be true.
As I read it, Uncle Charlie, was in the holding battalion.
It does need more research, but I believe there was a mixup with a simple middle intial. (W for a T). Thus there was a Navy man - a Charles Payne. Lots of Charley Paynes out there. This put down to innocent error. This kind of thing drives genealogists up the wall (laughs).
I think the President's Charley was there(American Army in Germany) though- in one capacity or another.
- Bill Mauldin cartoon
Now we are currently having a PRIDE month for hairy fat men who like to wear lipstick and pantyhose.
Only half a century ago we were ashamed to mention Jews and desperately trying to keep Jewish refugees out of our country.
As horrified as I always am when I hear of the institutional racism we used to have in this country, I cannot deny that “We’ve come a long way, baby.”
From what I remember he wasn't there at all. I'll see if I can find the article.
Nice if we can clarify the whole thing.
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