Posted on 06/03/2009 12:54:57 PM PDT by wagglebee
If I should come down with a terminal illness, I'd prefer the busybodies and the government stay out of my business.
Glad to hear that you oppose new laws legalizing assisted suicide and euthanasia.
I'm actually opposed to the existing laws that insist I belong to the government.
How are you so comfortable with them?
I’m not aware of any such law.
Then you are remarkably obtuse.
The cite the law, be specific.
No person shall be . . . deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
Or maybe THIS one:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
I'm not permitted to be disposed of by funeral pyre in the state of Pennsylvania. That's one. I don't have the opportunity for assisted suicide, for another. My doctor can order anything he/she pleases except in the case of cerebral or cardiac failure (the DNR). Even through I don't want an autopsy under any circumstances, the government may dictate one. I cannot be transported to a cremation facility except by a licensed funeral director.
Choice is liberty, eh? Lack of choice is government ownership.
When was your day?
And yet your nect post, you say it is a matter of intent. So is it my intent or the intent of the one giving me pain medication?
Both.
Then the lines are indeed blurry. I want my pain to end, my doc wants my pain to end, giving pain meds sufficient to end my pain ends my life. So what was my intent? I am out of pian but I am dead. Same result either intent. Maybe I want to die because I want my pain to end and I know that I will never be out of excruiating pain UNTIL or UNLESS I die.
Are you a physician or a hospice worker? Because all of the ones that I have talked to stated that pain can almost always be managed without overdose. Generally the problem comes in when a person is already near death and the pain medication causes respiratory problems.
Keep in mind that on the average 85% of what you spend to care for yourself medically, as an individual, will be SPENT during the last TWO MONTHS of your LIFE.
If you DO NOT fight death and opt out of spending that last lump sum of 85% the SYSTEM is losing a huge amount of business.
This SEEMS like it would be the case, but the reality is that many hospitals and doctors are the ones pushing for assisted suicide/euthanasia.
But you see you immediately call it a problem. If you are treating the pain with things such as morphine ( or even stronger drugs) then respiratory failure is ALWAYS a risk. You did not address the basic question which was how do you distinguish between the the desire to be out of pain and the desire to have life end because you know the pain ( and trust me it is excrutiating) will not end until you have ceased breathing. You treat “end stage” as if it is instantaneous and trust me it is not.
Which was my starting premise.
and I can attest through the many medical people I have as friends that tell me there are many more health care conglomerates pushing in the opposite direction.
You treat “end stage” as if it is instantaneous and trust me it is not.
Your attitude is similar to that of many in the pro-death movement in which you presume that those opposed to euthanasia and assisted suicide have never experienced having a loved one die of a painful terminal illness. This is a FALSE presumption.
But there is also a lot of pushing from insurance companies that would prefer to not spend the money.
No it is not. I have drawn the only conclusion I can based on your statements. Do not presume that I am “pro” anything
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