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California commission opposes new offshore oil plan
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/1/09 | AP

Posted on 06/01/2009 5:02:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

LOS ANGELES — California's three-member State Lands Commission has passed a resolution urging the Legislature not to support a proposed new oil drilling project off the Santa Barbara coast.

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Last year, Houston-based Plains Exploration & Production Co. unveiled an unprecedented deal with longtime anti-oil conservationists in Santa Barbara County to allow the state's first new offshore oil project in more than 40 years.

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The commission rejected the proposal in January. ...

Members of environmental groups accused the governor of attempting a power grab. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; commission; enemywithin; offshoreoil; opposes; pxp

1 posted on 06/01/2009 5:02:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

CA has too many unelected bureaucrats and “advocacy” groups put there by people who don’t understand the issues.


2 posted on 06/01/2009 5:04:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: NormsRevenge

The last thing California needs to balance its budget is increased tax revenue. /crap


3 posted on 06/01/2009 5:05:12 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: NormsRevenge

No bailouts, California.


4 posted on 06/01/2009 5:06:01 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: NormsRevenge

How can a “commission” over ride our duly elected legislature? The answer: They can’t, unless the government lets them do so. Time we took our government back and once again made it BY the people, for the people.


5 posted on 06/01/2009 5:07:39 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yup, the world is full of NGOs and quasigubamental groups and such.

Who do they answer too?

Look at who appointed them.. but never voted for any of them..


6 posted on 06/01/2009 5:10:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Three environmental groups signed a confidential deal with the company, agreeing to lobby for the project in exchange for money for the state, thousands of acres of donated land and a commitment from Plains to shut down its operations countywide by 2022.

So apparently these "environmental groups", who stand on principal and for the greater good of the environment, can be bought off, if the price is right.

7 posted on 06/01/2009 5:11:41 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: calex59
Ok, I'm with you, now you need to get 50% plus one of the voters on board.
8 posted on 06/01/2009 5:11:53 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl

We’re up to our ass in unelected bureaucrats appointed by the politicians to insulate themselves while carrying out leftist agendas. Our Austrian jackass of a failed Governor has been complicit in working this way. We need to get rid of every damned one of these useless Boards, Groups, Committees and Commissions. The whole idea is to regulate and control the voters while protecting our corrupt political elite.


9 posted on 06/01/2009 5:13:22 PM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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To: NormsRevenge

Where do the environmentalists think that oil comes from? If they don’t see rigs do they think it comes from the gas station?

guess what? There are these crazy steel tubs that cross the globe full of the stuff. They occasionally crack up in the ocean somewhere. And we make other countries rich for sending these covered tubs across the oceans so we can wear our Crocks and gas our weed blowers and by God have all the benefits of petro-chemicals.

Wouldn’t it be more environmentally responsible to tap oil reserves close to home under our laws, control and technology?

No?

Okay, go back to your tofu. It’s is soaking in hexane...


10 posted on 06/01/2009 5:18:38 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Voter62vb

I hear Calif. has some big reserves offshore. This could really help cut our dependence on imports, and give Calif. some badly needed tax revenue. Sounds like a win-win situation, unless you are an enviro extremist type.


11 posted on 06/01/2009 5:50:32 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes, not only that, but I understand that some of the fields off CA are just “capped off” and could be turned on rather quickly. Can anybody confirm this?

I say, if they are not willing to drill and thereby gain state revenue, then don’t ask me for a dime of my tax dollars to be sent to them to subsidize their anti-business ethos.


12 posted on 06/01/2009 5:56:57 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: Michael.SF.; NormsRevenge; Czar; pointsal
So apparently these "environmental groups", who stand on principal and for the greater good of the environment, can be bought off, if the price is right.

Soros Buys 5.4% of Plains Exploration, May 14, 2009

13 posted on 06/01/2009 6:23:32 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
...give Calif. some badly needed tax revenue

They don't need revenue. They need to cut spending.

Whatever revenue they receive, they'll spend 110% of it.

Time to starve the beast.

14 posted on 06/01/2009 6:25:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado!)
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To: NormsRevenge; All
History lesson:

"The hydrocarbon seeps in the Santa Barbara Channel have a long history. Oil and gas leaks ... through faults, fractures and outcroppings to the seabed and coastal lands. The largest and most intense seepage occurs at the northern edge of the Santa Barbara Channel, in the Coal Oil Point seep field. Geologic evidence suggests that seepage has been ongoing for at least 500,000 years."

Linky: http://www.bubbleology.com/seeps/COPSeeps.html#Intro

15 posted on 06/01/2009 6:41:37 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: calcowgirl

So that explains it, thanks.


16 posted on 06/02/2009 7:46:40 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: calcowgirl
Whatever revenue they receive, they'll spend 110% of it.

Isn't that the truth!

17 posted on 06/02/2009 7:47:27 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: Cobra64
The seepage that you refer to is exactly how offshore drilling got started. The Ventura area (just south of Santa Barbara) had seepage that led to the conclusion that oil was under the water. In the late 1890's the first 'offshore' wells were drilled from piers extended into the SB Channel. The company that did this is still located in Ventura, I believe.
18 posted on 06/02/2009 7:56:53 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: NormsRevenge

Please turn out the lights in Sacramento. This is embarrassing.


19 posted on 06/02/2009 3:27:31 PM PDT by pointsal
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