Posted on 06/01/2009 5:57:59 AM PDT by Beckwith
During the campaign, Obama told a story about his "uncle," Charles Payne's, WW II experiences to burnish his all-American upbringing. But Obama made a gaffe when he said his great uncle liberated Auschwitz. Well, Russian troops liberated Auschwitz, so the story changed that Payne was part of the force that liberated Ohrdruf, a subcamp of the Buchenwald concentration camp, in April 1945.
Well, this story wasn't a gaffe. It was a lie, on top of a lie, on top of a lie.
Records show that a Payne, C. T. served as a private with Company K, 355th Infantry Regiment, 89th Infantry Division, during World War II. The C.T. Payne listed on the roster of the 89th Infantry Division is NOT a relative of Obama.
Madelyn Dunham's brother was named Charles "W." Payne, not Charles "T." Payne. Genealogy records show that his grandmother Madelyn only had one brother, Charles W., and a sister Arlene. Charles W. was born to Rolla Charles Payne and Leona McCurry (nee) in 1924.
Not only that, It seems that "Uncle Charles" was in the Navy. Payne, Charles W., enlisted in the US Navy on November 10, 1942, at Board #4, Kansas City, Wyandotte County, Kansas. His US Navy serial number was 6293977.
There was a Charles T. Payne in the family. He was Obama's great great grandfather. He joined the military just after Pearl Harbor amid the fear and confusion on a "60 and over" enlistment that was meant to be defense at home. However, he also joined the US Navy. Payne, Charles T., enlisted on December 13, 1942, also at Board #4, Kansas City, Wyandotte County, Kansas. His US Navy serial number was 3427439.
Charles T. Payne was born in 1861. He would have been 81 years old, and totally unacceptable for active duty in the infantry -- he is not the C.T. Payne of the 89th.
It’s logical...looks that way.
Yesterday's The Obama File's Latest News featured a report about Obama's "uncle," Charles Payne's, WW II experiences. The report is most probably in error.
This item discusses the sources of the confusion, that appear to be erroneous data in several archival databases.
I checked my Obama's Family page and Madelyn Dunham was raised in Augusta, Kansas.
There’s an ABC News report that says Charles T. enlisted in 1943, with most of his graduating class.
There is an entry in the World War II Kansas Selective Service Index for the US Army for a Charles E. Payne, Augusta, Kansas, dated June 1943.
It is reasonable to assume that Charles E. Payne should be Charles T. Payne, and is an entry made in error.
That doesn’t explain the discrepancy in the ancestry.com records, identifying Madelyn Dunham's brother as Charles W. Payne. I am still waiting for a return email from them.
The website "Sweetness & Light," a normally reliable source, has a report entitled "89th Division Site ‘Confirms’ Obama’s Story." A statement on the website below says "S&L had it first!"
At the bottom of the page is this comment -- "This article was posted by Steve Gilbert on Wednesday, May 28th, 2008 at 11:13 am"
S&L appears to be the source of this report, but I wouldn't be to critical of them. If Obama chose not to hide the facts of his life from the American People, these kinds of reports would not exist, as there would be no reason for them.
Remember, Obama has lived for almost 50 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no bona fides -- no paper trail -- nothing.
Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released -- Lawyers fees -- greater than $1,000,000 -- birth certificate -- $15.
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Obama/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Kindergarten records -- Records lost (this is a big one -- see here -- read two frames)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School records -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport -- Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama's terrorism and intelligence adviser.
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament" -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None
Illinois Bar Records -- Not released.
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
Jon Virgil Payne
Another brother — born in 1937, he’s not on the 1930 Census.
I’m surprised Lincoln didn’t stand up and start knocking them all off the monument.
That image is fixed in my brain - took my kids to see Night at the Museum 2 last weekend and the Lincoln statue came to life to help Ben Stiller. Makes me wonder what Lincoln would think of things these days, or better yet, since I’m on my second Reagan book in as many weeks, how Reagan would feel about how much govt has expanded, how so much of what he worked so hard for is being undone.
And to make myself feel better, how he would have Obama for lunch, how he’d orate the elitist windbag’s empty suit right off. The TOTUS would no doubt just burst into flames. :)
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