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Fears for 228 as Air France jet vanishes
CNN ^ | June 1, 2009

Posted on 06/01/2009 3:50:07 AM PDT by rdl6989

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To: seraphMTH

“I hate that Airbus “fly by wire” crap, where the computer automatically overrides anything a pilot tries to do.”

You mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EM0hDchVlY


41 posted on 06/01/2009 5:23:00 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: rdl6989
Bad weather off the coast of Brazil/Africa where the plane apparently went down:


42 posted on 06/01/2009 5:23:35 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: stayathomemom

Do pilots routinely report turbulance while in flight? The report says the plane is built to survive extreme turbulance. What do I know but in todays technology if it had crashed into the ocean location could be found correct?Something is fishy with this. How profoundly sad.


43 posted on 06/01/2009 5:23:57 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: RayChuang88
If I were betting that would be my choice. Sudden vertical stab separation.

If it ain't Boeing I ain't going.

44 posted on 06/01/2009 5:26:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit (Two terms for politicians, one in office, one in jail.))
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To: jimbo123
snippets from a Drudge link.

PARIS (Reuters) - An Air France plane with 228 people on board went missing on its way from Brazil to Paris on Monday, after hitting strong turbulence...

Air France said in a statement the plane sent an automatic message reporting an electrical short-circuit at 0214 GMT, roughly 15 minutes after flying into the turbulence.

“There was very, very strong turbulence. For now we can't understand what happened,” Borloo, the second most senior in the government, said on France Info radio.

“Apparently the possibility of a hijacking has been excluded,” Borloo said.

The jet's last known location was unclear.

A government source in Brazil said the plane disappeared from Brazilian radars at around 0130 GMT, about three to 3 1/2 hours into its flight. That would mean controllers lost track of the plane while it was closer to Brazil than to France.

RADAR HOLE

Pilots stay in contact with traffic control across the Atlantic by radioing in their position every 20 to 30 minutes. There is no radar cover because radar can only ‘see’ along a direct line of sight.

“Anything that's the other side of the horizon cannot be seen by radar, so once you've gone 200 or 300 miles off the coast, radar cannot see you any longer,” said David Learmount of Flight International.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE5501PB20090601

45 posted on 06/01/2009 5:26:11 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: rdl6989

Did it fly into a storm it shouldn’t have?

We’re sometimes victims of two kinds of mistakes in this life: other peoples’ and our own.


46 posted on 06/01/2009 5:27:58 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: RoadTest

Flew into a storm and was hit by lightning.


47 posted on 06/01/2009 5:29:12 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: rdl6989
Updated info...

Air France Rio-Paris flight missing with 228 aboard

Last contact with Air France jet off Brazil coast 8:18am EDT Brazil air force starts search for Air France jet 7:03am EDT Missing plane out of fuel by now: French minister 7:19am EDT Featured Broker sponsored link By Estelle Shirbon

PARIS (Reuters) - An Air France plane with 228 people on board went missing on its way from Brazil to Paris on Monday, after hitting strong turbulence, prompting military jets to take off from both sides of the Atlantic to search for it.

Air France said in a statement the plane sent an automatic message reporting an electrical short-circuit at 0214 GMT, roughly 15 minutes after flying into the turbulence.

Senior French minister Jean-Louis Borloo ruled out the possibility of a hijacking of the flight AF 447 from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.

"There was very, very strong turbulence. For now we can't understand what happened," Borloo, the second most senior in the government, said on France Info radio.

"Apparently the possibility of a hijacking has been excluded," Borloo said.

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48 posted on 06/01/2009 5:29:53 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: jimbo123

“Flew into a storm and was hit by lightning.”

Aren’t they supposed to go around or over those storms?


49 posted on 06/01/2009 5:30:19 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - I Tim 2:5)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

50 posted on 06/01/2009 5:31:33 AM PDT by maggief
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To: RoadTest

You would think they would fly around the storm. But looking at another weather radar loop, it looked like the storm of the coast of Brazil intensified very quickly last night around the time contact was lost.


51 posted on 06/01/2009 5:32:13 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“Do pilots routinely report turbulance while in flight?”

Yes, especially for the benefit of following flights.


52 posted on 06/01/2009 5:32:32 AM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

If it ran out of gas it probably did not run out of radio before it went down. “Lost contact” sounds more like a sudden termination- fumes in the center tank, maybe. Doesn’t the Koran say something about such fumes?


53 posted on 06/01/2009 5:33:08 AM PDT by arthurus (ACORN + Amnesty = Venezuelan DemocracCan I pray for the soul of this man?y in the USSSA)
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To: Erik Latranyi; RayChuang88

For what it’s worth, I think the typical path of a GUA - MIA flight would put it well inland, at few thousand km west of the longitude where this incident may have taken place — not that turbulence of such magnitude cannot take place with equal likelihood over land or over sea.


54 posted on 06/01/2009 5:37:14 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Never on my watch

The Richard Clarke special. I hate that one, too.


55 posted on 06/01/2009 5:50:43 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: rdl6989

Just heard this on the radio, prayers going up for a miracle!!!


56 posted on 06/01/2009 5:54:24 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: NavyCanDo
Or like Sullenberger's US Airway's simultaneous engine shutdown and subsequent Hudson River landing? (Boy! Were they ever quiet about that!)

ML/NJ

57 posted on 06/01/2009 6:02:20 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Erik Latranyi
This is either a mechanical failure or terrorism.

Electrical. 98%.

ML/NJ

58 posted on 06/01/2009 6:04:31 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Do pilots routinely report turbulance while in flight?

All the time.

ML/NJ

59 posted on 06/01/2009 6:07:51 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Ironic that a “high ranking al Qaeda” operative was arrested in Brazil just last week

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2258816/posts


60 posted on 06/01/2009 6:10:14 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal ( Martin Luther King))
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