Posted on 05/31/2009 5:46:56 PM PDT by tobyhill
(What's the state of Kansas going to do if this results in a loss of part of its "tourist industry?" -- Note: There's been many years where up to half of all KS abortions involve women from other states)
The ELCA has largely been "evangelical" in name only. Both the ELCA and Presbyterian Church - USA have since at least the 1990s included "abortion coverage" as part of its health care plans for churchworkers & their families. (You know...I guess you can call them the "anti-church growth" movement)
Well, to at least be biblically accurate, you've just eliminated both Moses and David as being among God's people. Moses committed murder (surely you've seen DeMille's The 10 Commandments) and David committed indirect manslaughter by deliberately sending the husband of the woman he wanted out to frontline battle.
(I'm not saying these are patterns to emulate...I'm just saying that for your statement to be true, it would have been "impossible" for those two biblical characters to have ever been counted as among God's people)
The Tiller family (and their attorneys) live and will continue to live on blood money.
I spit on their sorrow.
Neither Moses or David were Christians.
(What? Do you think God puts post-Christ "Christians" in one corner of heaven and pre-Christ Jews who exercised faith in a future Messiah...see Abraham, Gen. 15:6, for example...in the other corner...and neither the twain shall meet?)
Num 25:11 Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, hath turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, while he was zealous for my sake among them, that I consumed not the children of Israel in my jealousy.
I wonder what the odds of a jury nullification on this murder trial are?
Bullsh*t. Jesus himself admonished one of his disciples to sell his cloak and buy a sword. Christians are NOT pacifists.
One man killed an evil child murderer, the other man killed thousands of children. Do not expect me or Christians to mourn the destruction of evil.
I was just commenting that Tiller the Killer, was not living in a Christ-like manner, being a baby killer and all. The other people in that church knew what he was. I read in a letter from the “pastor” that Tiller even assisted with communion at that fake church! That just ain’t right.
Jesus said those who live by the sword shall parish by the sword as He admonished Peter to put away his sword. Are Christians pacifists? No. But I think Christians are consistent in their belief that life is a gift from God and it is not our place to return that gift.
There are better ways to handle abortionists such as Tiller without gunning him down in the street. That is my point. Does it make me a pacifist? Don’t think so. Does it make me a supporter of mass baby killing? I don’t think so.
It does make me a Christian.
Of course I don’t believe that, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. Here is what I do believe. I believe that today’s children of God have more light than either Moses or David had because of the coming of Christ and the Holy Spirit, neither of which David or Moses had. Moses and David had what every old convenant believer should have, trust in God.
I believe the Levitical convenant was insufficient to bring us into a personal relationship with God. This was done in the coming of the Messiah, Jesus Christ. You can read this argument by reading the book of Hebrews.
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