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To: atomic_dog
Do what the rest of us have done... leave while you still can. Let California sink into the Pacific under its own weight.

I would love to live in the California that I grew up in, but that place doesn't exist, so I left. For that matter I would love to live in the Unites States I grew up in, ...

27 posted on 05/31/2009 11:58:53 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: D Rider
I would love to live in the Unites States I grew up in

I find this entire subject very depressing. As I grow older I understand better and better the views of our founding fathers. The Constitution is a document built on our forefathers profound cynicism about their fellow men built over a lifetime of disillusionment in human nature. Basically I think the idea is to tell folks that they have to make their own decisions and stand and fall with the consequences and not bother other people either way. I honestly think there is nothing wrong with that. Our collective defense seems to bring out the best in us. The American penchant for going through dirty linen and dogcrap is a less flattering side of us that is all too true to form.

George Washington was as fine an executive as this country will ever have.

36 posted on 05/31/2009 12:23:38 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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