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To: D Rider
I would love to live in the Unites States I grew up in

I find this entire subject very depressing. As I grow older I understand better and better the views of our founding fathers. The Constitution is a document built on our forefathers profound cynicism about their fellow men built over a lifetime of disillusionment in human nature. Basically I think the idea is to tell folks that they have to make their own decisions and stand and fall with the consequences and not bother other people either way. I honestly think there is nothing wrong with that. Our collective defense seems to bring out the best in us. The American penchant for going through dirty linen and dogcrap is a less flattering side of us that is all too true to form.

George Washington was as fine an executive as this country will ever have.

36 posted on 05/31/2009 12:23:38 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson
I find this entire subject very depressing.

Yup.

As I grow older I understand better and better the views of our founding fathers. The Constitution is a document built on our forefathers profound cynicism about their fellow men built over a lifetime of disillusionment in human nature. Basically I think the idea is to tell folks that they have to make their own decisions and stand and fall with the consequences and not bother other people either way.

So true, unfortunately the nanny state has replaced the federal republic.

38 posted on 05/31/2009 1:06:56 PM PDT by D Rider
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