Posted on 05/30/2009 6:29:21 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Erich "Mancow" Muller has gotten a lot of publicity for himself over the last few days by subjecting himself to a supposed waterboarding and then immediately declaring it to be torture. As a result, he has been hailed in the leftwing Blogosphere and appeared on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann to report on his experience. Well, now it appears that his "experience" was probably faked and did not encompass what a real waterboarding is like according to the Gawker blog. A series of e-mails between Mancow publicist, Linda Shafran, and David Kupcinet who has contacts with many veterans through his Purple Heart Association was obtained by the Gawker. Shafran was trying to get a veteran to conduct the waterboarding and when Kupcinet agreed to find one, she sent him the following e-mail:
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“Mancow” Muller gives Raytown, MO a bad name... And that’s really saying something...
Mark
I’m no fan of this radio guy but the event *was* videotaped and made available all over the Internet.
It wasn’t “faked,” unless one considers that he was waterboarded for about 5 seconds.
And why “fake” such a project? Anyone can do it in their own bathtub.
Who cares?
After watching his “torture”, it reminds me of my “torture”.
I was swimming in our lake, my sister sitting on our dock. I was only about 10 and my sister put her foot on my head and pushed me under water. She held me there for what seemed like hours. Finally, she took her foot off my head and let me up. I told her where are the troop positions were and lots of other classified information.
I am going to call Amnesty Intl. and have her hauled before the Hauge.
‘ManCow’ is obnoxious!
What is so fraudulent about this water-boarding debate is that if it were really torture they could not show it on television. How bad could it be?
There is video of Saddam torturing people, with small explosives - let’s see them put that on TV and let folks watch real torture. Use the UN definition.
It was fake because the person conducting the waterboarding wasn't qualified to do so. Therefore it didn't replicate what an authorized waterboarding is like. Also note what Mancow's publicist said:
"It is going to have to look "real" but of course would be simulated with Mancow acting like he is drowning."
So Mancow already PLANNED in advance to ACT like he is drowning.
SO, the story is that mancow cant hold his breath for more than 8 seconds?
>>>> “It is going to have to look “real” but of course would be simulated with Mancow acting like he is drowning.” <<<<<<
Yes I agree that would qualify as “fake.”
He was supposed to appear last week on the Mark Davis show here in Dallas, and bailed at the last minute. Mark later commented that he told Mancow’s people that it “wasn’t going to go well for him” anyway. So I think there was already the sense that the waterboarding thing was a put-on from the beginning.
Maybe he was wimpish enough he just couldn’t take more than 5 seconds of it. He probably could not take more than 5 seconds of a clothes pin on his nipples.
Then again, maybe he didn’t have any REAL important info worth more than 5 seconds of waterboarding.
Mancow proved he was an idiot once again wasn’t faked. I do wonder if the “marine” wasn’t the fake. If he is a marine, he should be sent packing.
Are there any former Marines out there who can relate their experiences at Pickle Meadows? It seems like there was some interrogation practices there involving water, strictly for training purposes, mind you.
Who cares if waterboarding is “torture”? A Gallup poll showed that a large majority of Americans agree that torture should be used if necessary. Why do we draw a line in the sand next to a mere word. Olberfag & Co. have spend hundreds of air-hours yelling “It’s TORTURE!!!” like a group of 8-year olds. Accept that it’s “torture” and that it is justified. Then let them argue that it’s not...much harder to do than to simply define a word.
Never call it torture. It drives liberals nuts when you tell them it's not torture. I love watching their heads explode.
mancow has a long ‘tortured’ career.
cheap stunts are his forte.
never trust anyone who’s hyped by the TV.
“Erich ‘Mancow’ Muller has gotten a lot of publicity for himself over the last few days by subjecting himself to a supposed waterboarding and then immediately declaring it to be torture”
Is torture really something you just know when you feel it? I don’t think Mancow has any permanent damage. Nor did was he afraid for his life, or anything. So what makes him so sure it was torture? Because it was unpleasant? Does that mean that time I was punched in the stomach when I was 8 was torture? ‘Cause that surely hurt.
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