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'Tell somebody,' if you're thinking of suicide, says general
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Posted on 05/28/2009 3:20:21 PM PDT by traumer

FORT CAMPBELL, Kentucky (CNN) -- The 101st Airborne's senior commander in effect ordered his soldiers Wednesday not to commit suicide, a plea that came after 11 suicides since January 1, two of them in the past week.

"If you don't remember anything else I say in the next five or 10 minutes, remember this -- suicidal behavior in the 101st on Fort Campbell is bad," Brig. Gen. Stephen J. Townsend told his forces. "It's bad for soldiers, it's bad for families, bad for your units, bad for this division and our army and our country and it's got to stop now. Suicides on Fort Campbell have to stop now."

Fort Campbell's suicide rate, the highest in the Army, "is not a good statistic," he said in remarks to one of four divisions he addressed during the day.

After nearly one soldier per week committed suicide at the post between January and mid-March, the Army instituted a suicide prevention program that "seemed to be having good effects" until last week, when two more suicides occurred, he said.

"Suicide is a permanent solution to what is only a temporary problem," Townsend said. "Screaming Eagles don't quit. No matter how bad your problem seems today, trust me, it's not the end of the world. It will be better tomorrow. Don't take away your tomorrow."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 101stairborne; fallen; fortcampbell; soldiers; suicide; usarmy
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1 posted on 05/28/2009 3:20:21 PM PDT by traumer
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The 101st Airborne's senior commander in effect ordered his soldiers Wednesday not to commit suicide

Violators will recieve a week of KP duty and be ineligible for three-day passes until further notice.

2 posted on 05/28/2009 3:24:17 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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With all due respect, General, I don’t think you’re quite clear on the state of mind of a potential suicide.


3 posted on 05/28/2009 3:29:27 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: traumer

Tell Kervorkian, for example.


4 posted on 05/28/2009 3:31:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Talisker

“With all due respect, General, I don’t think you’re quite clear on the state of mind of a potential suicide.”

Oh, I don’t know about that. I think the General Townsend is perfectly aware of the “state of mind” of a potential suicide. I think it was appropriate and wise of him to make the statements he did. Hopefully someone who was thinking of suicide and heard his words will rethink their own situation. It is also possible that through his words others will begin to pay more attention to a soldier who is having some problems and get them the help they need before it is too late.


5 posted on 05/28/2009 3:37:53 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: traumer

How sad. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.


6 posted on 05/28/2009 3:38:23 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: traumer

On its face this seems silly, but it’s actually a good tactic. Some soldiers might feel it shows weakness and vulnerability to talk to others about depression, so it’s good to give that explicit permission to talk about feeling suicidal. And reminding soldiers that their act isn’t performed in a vacuum, but that it affects those around them, can be an effective way of deterring suicides as well.


7 posted on 05/28/2009 3:38:35 PM PDT by Devils Avocado
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To: Brilliant

You are an imbecile


8 posted on 05/28/2009 3:38:45 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: traumer
Don't they don't know that Obama is President?

The Obama was going to make everyone worldwide feel so much better.

9 posted on 05/28/2009 3:40:41 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Devils Avocado

I think you might be right.


10 posted on 05/28/2009 3:41:24 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: traumer
"...and it's got to stop now. Suicides on Fort Campbell have to stop now."

Geeze...I know he's a general.Commander of the Screamin' Eagles,no less.But couldn't he have put it in a slightly more...sympathetic...way?

11 posted on 05/28/2009 3:43:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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Violators will be shot! New 0bama Nazi policy.


12 posted on 05/28/2009 3:43:57 PM PDT by I Hate Obama (Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made- Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: CaribouCrossing
Hopefully someone who was thinking of suicide and heard his words will rethink their own situation. It is also possible that through his words others will begin to pay more attention to a soldier who is having some problems and get them the help they need before it is too late.

Okay, you made a good point about third parties being more aware of problems and being able to intervene with possible suicides. I didn't think of that, and of course, you're right. But I still feel that for the potential suicide personally, the very severity of the mental problem dismisses any possibility of a General's "buck up" order. It didn't work for Patton, either - there is such a thing as a mental breakdown that does not respond to command.

13 posted on 05/28/2009 4:01:37 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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Well that's great order the troops Not to commit suicide.Then totaly abandone them when they are discharged from military service.The military is good for that.

One day your in the service and the next day your on your own brother and sister veterans.

I know because I have experienced it.Thats not to say that I don't love the military because I do.

I just wish they would remember those who have served this country.

14 posted on 05/28/2009 4:09:08 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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Of course, if a wave of military suicides on President Bush's watch had happened, you all know how CNN would have reported that differently...

I'm sure there are a lot of military folks under Obama who are questioning why the heck they signed up for defending our country from foreign enemies when the enemies appear to be eating our country away from the inside.

15 posted on 05/28/2009 4:10:01 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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“Okay, you made a good point about third parties being more aware of problems and being able to intervene with possible suicides. I didn’t think of that, and of course, you’re right. But I still feel that for the potential suicide personally, the very severity of the mental problem dismisses any possibility of a General’s “buck up” order. It didn’t work for Patton, either - there is such a thing as a mental breakdown that does not respond to command.”

I understand your point as well, and it is also a good one. Someone who is already having a total mental breakdown isn’t likely to be swayed by the General’s words.


16 posted on 05/28/2009 4:12:30 PM PDT by CaribouCrossing
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To: traumer

“The beatings will continue until morale improves. That is all.”


17 posted on 05/28/2009 4:16:21 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Powell/Whorealdo 2012- The New GOP Dream Ticket)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I think it needed to be said, if you read the full article. Suicides need to be reminded that their actions effect other people for life, that their problems are temporary and it’s OK to talk about them.

Incidentally, my great-uncle was one of the earliest Screaming Eagles (Easy Company) and died on D-Day.


18 posted on 05/28/2009 4:19:47 PM PDT by YCTHouston
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To: YCTHouston

Was he named in “Band of Brothers”?


19 posted on 05/28/2009 4:25:34 PM PDT by Norman Bates
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To: Carley
You are an imbecile

And you're a noob who doesn't recognize sarcasm

Besides, you shouldn't call posters names, it makes you look like an imbecile

20 posted on 05/28/2009 4:26:25 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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