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Credit Cards Don’t Kill Credit Ratings, People Do
NRO Corner ^ | May 28, 2009 | by Jim Manzi

Posted on 05/28/2009 9:10:17 AM PDT by library user

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To: EBH
Nope, you missed it then.

Guess again.

81 posted on 05/28/2009 3:56:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: dfwgator

“So, if you don’t like it, don’t sign the contract.”

Well, when you grow up and are old enough to actually get a credit card you’ll understand what an ignorant and asinine answer that was.


82 posted on 05/28/2009 4:00:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

No, it wasn’t.

But it was just a typo.


83 posted on 05/28/2009 4:15:10 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Goldsborough

I appreciate your post.

There is plenty of blame to go around with the credit mess. I do agree that individuals do need to be responsible with their money, and not run up bills that they can’t pay. And I also agree with your point, that the credit card issuers have not behaved responsibily, have issued too many cards, played too fast and loose with interest rates and excessive fees.

I also agree with you that it is not a good business model to anger such a large portion of the businesses’ own customers.

Jeannine


84 posted on 05/28/2009 6:33:31 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m just not sure how practical his advise there was.

You and I both. I think that in a perfect world, his advice would be right on the mark, but the way credit actually works, I'm not so sure.

85 posted on 05/28/2009 9:06:07 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Obama's multi- trillion dollar agenda would be a "man caused disaster")
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Thanks bud. Have a good one...


86 posted on 05/28/2009 10:54:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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To: EBH
Atlas Shrugged is a great book, but it is still fiction.

This is much more appropriate:

Milton Friedman on greed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A

87 posted on 05/29/2009 3:13:10 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you haven't purged you company of 0bama supporters, you are part of the problem.)
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To: EBH
You are confusing greed with stupidity.
88 posted on 05/29/2009 5:04:08 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you haven't purged you company of 0bama supporters, you are part of the problem.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
A solution is for the rest of the world to treat bankers the way they treat us: use more power than expected - the power company can up a banker's rate by 28%.

Water the grass more than average? The city can "up" the water rate for up to two years...

Late getting home for the appointment with the plumber? All contractors must charge an extra "fee" for up to a year...

And grocery stores? If a banker buys less milk than average - and causes over-stocking costs - all his food for 24 months will carry a 5% surcharge...

89 posted on 05/29/2009 5:12:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: GOPJ
over-stocking costs

Are there such things? I'd never heard of that one. Surely not even a banker would be so...so...so audacious!

90 posted on 05/29/2009 5:17:42 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: Niteranger68
Milton Friedman on greed

words matter. manslaughter is not murder. self interest is not greed.

91 posted on 05/29/2009 5:19:00 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I figured it out recently. It could take you 30 years to pay off a loan making your minimum payment, if the interest rate is 30%. That is flat out abusive, and should be a criminal act.

The obvious solution is NOT to make the minimum payment. Pay 15% of your balance - not 2%...

Credit cards companies do take advantage of those who "can't wait" for things - but so does everyone. It's the nature of the system.

You want it "right now" it'll cost more.

92 posted on 05/29/2009 5:22:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I was having fun with the idea - I have no idea if there's such a thing.

:)

93 posted on 05/29/2009 5:52:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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To: the invisib1e hand
self interest is not greed

Well it depends on whose wealth your are referring to. If I want to keep all the wealth I earn, it's self-interest. If you think I have too much, it's greed. Greed is just a derogatory term for people who don't share their wealth.

94 posted on 05/29/2009 6:01:39 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you haven't purged you company of 0bama supporters, you are part of the problem.)
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To: Goldsborough

Excellent post. Thanks.


95 posted on 05/29/2009 6:04:07 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Niteranger68
Greed is just a derogatory term for people who don't share their wealth.

Greed is a bit more than that, FRiend. It's contrary to the natural law. It's a moral vice. In other words, it's social cancer.

96 posted on 05/29/2009 6:04:15 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: GOPJ

IF that’s your idea of “fun...” you probably are a banker at heart. ;)


97 posted on 05/29/2009 6:06:45 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the machines will break.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

How do bank failures affect credit ratings for the credit rating companies?

How about credit ratings for banks and credit card companies based on exactly the same criteria for debtors?


98 posted on 05/29/2009 6:10:15 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: library user
Even if my purchase agreement with GM doesn’t say “this car will not explode in a ball of flame if you tap the accelerator twice and then hit the brakes,” they are subject to legal action if this occurs.

And you are still just as dead.

If the credit card companies want my money they will treat me as an asset, as long as I pay on time and do not default, not as a "sucker".
I will drop a particular card like a hot potato if they mistreat me.
I've done it before.

There are other fish in the sea.

99 posted on 05/29/2009 6:17:27 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: CodeToad

I have several credit cards thank you very much. And I don’t use them until I know I’ll be able to pay off the full balance at the end of the month, so I frankly don’t care what the interest rate is, I’m using them to get float on my money.

And there is a contract that you sign when you apply for a credit card, which basically states they can raise the rates at any time. But we all know that nobody reads it. That’s what they count on. But whose fault is that? Who puts a gun to your head and forces you to take their credit card?


100 posted on 05/29/2009 6:21:28 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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