Posted on 05/28/2009 5:49:24 AM PDT by kellynla
We just GOTTA save the TREES!!! doncha know!
I have one of these from Harden. It hides my TV and stereo. They were made in Japan! - refers to electronics. Harden made in NC!
It wasn’t easy throwing the hat in the ring, however I got on the china ping list for a reason.. I want congress to remove the MFN status, I want china to go down the tubes, to no longer play a role in our economy, and to be held liable for poisoning the products we buy. Let’s see who has the backbone to get it done.
I was building houses after Mt St. Helens leveled a few zillion trees. It made building lumber cheap to buy for a while. Fir trees make good studs. But, the unions and enviros went to bat and prevented much of it from being harvested.
There are some on this thread who just like to bash profitable business practices, but have no facts to back their emotions.
NC also used to be conservative!
1010RD wrote: “The point being now that we know about Chinese drywall how likely will you be to purchase any?”
It’s too late if you bought a house with that stuff in it. Those houses are all write-offs.
Just another example where “cheaper” isn’t.
Some enterprising person will find some way to get value out of them, if allowed.
raybbr wrote: “I am really curious. What did the UAW have to do with any car design?”
I was referring to Detroit 3 manufactured cars.
the Chinese Brilliance doesn’t do any better than the crash tests of a Vega, Pinto and Gremlin from almost 40 years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHW3PCZvlFI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mumLDIV2n7w&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4agoUB_JTEc&feature=related
In fact I’d say the Gremlin is definitely better than the Brilliance.
That's not what I was refuting.
You said: "I’ve never seen a car (even made by the UAW) that had this level of crash test performance."
What does the UAW have to do with the design of a car or any of its safety features?
Blaming the UAW for design flaws or marketing is specious.
If there is one silver lining in the collapse of our economy it is that we may have a cold and sniffles. The Chinese will get mortal pneumonia as will every other sc*mbag we owe money to.
I've been waiting DECADES to see if this would ever happen!
I can remember when countries around the world NATIONALIZED their industries; much of which were AMERICAN assests that were built in their nations with OUR money!
They just outright STOLE them!
Once again, you misrepresent the truth. I have accounted to you numerous times that I worked for a company that suffered destruction due to pricing pressures from WalMart. I did, in fact, sit in on the management meetings. Their people DICTATED the price that our product.. we were unable to make a profit ourselves.
Retailers deserve all of the hatred I pour upon them.
Elsie, this person is a paid WalMart shill.
...Elsie, this person is a paid WalMart shill.
Still have no argument, huh?
I have been in many NEGOTIATIONS. I know how much I need to make a profit, and don't sell even near that number. WalMart forces nobody!
You have been barking for a couple of days. You are still baying at the moon!
You do have a lot of hatred, though. I guess you've never figured out how to win...
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are speaking truthfully from your experience and perspective. I can assure you that I am speaking truthfully from mine. You need to refrain from commenting about people's "emotions" when the accounts relate actual experiences and real facts and figures.
The real truth is, you speak and act like a shill. No "ordinary customer" gives a crap about WallyWorld's reputation so much that they prickle in defense and include photographs of the headquarters building in otherwise mundane posts. If you are defending some capitalist concept in an unbiased manner, where are the photographs of the Sears, Penny's, and Radio Shack's headquarters? But no, the fact is, you are defending WalMarts honor well beyond the call of duty.
Still have no argument, huh?
Excuse me? I have posted actual dollar markup values for Sears. I will not do so for the more recent case because I am fearful of WalMarts' litigating strategies. Divulging any details here would certainly be traceable. Where are your "arguments"? I have invited you to tell me where I have posted erroneous information, yet you have not done so.
You claim facts not in evidence. You stated in an early post to have personal knowledge which defies any actual statistics available.
I know retail inside and out. You are full of crap if you think anybody operates with a 1000% profit margin. In the furniture business we operated at 100-120% (cost $50, sell $100-110). I do know that jewelry has traditionally had the highest markups, and they would love to get 300% on anything. Most of their goods are "keystoned" as well.
I'd bet a thousand bucks that Sears never paid $7 for a tool they sold for $78. I have owned Sears stock over the years, and gotten many of their annual reports. I claim utter and obvious Bull crap to your ridiculous claims. I don't know who you think you are fooling.
I have no interest in WalMart, other than that I shop there and feel you are maligning them for being smart business people. I can pull up pics of anything, but those really tweak you, so I have used them. I was deliberately provoking you to see how serious a problem you have. It's really serious.
You claim that WalMart dictated the price that they would pay to your company. I did that with sub-contractors, as a GC. I built houses knowing that I could better contain my sqft costs. If a contractor did not to work for my price, I found another.
You do not seem to know much about history. Not of retailing, not of industry, not of sweeping the floors (evidently). Your only claim is that the filthy "big box retailers" are to blame for American economic downfall.
Sorry, you need to look elsewhere... and here's some places to start! WalMart is just trying to make a buck. THAT is the AMERICAN WAY!
So are you, only what you spout is just wrong.
You are full of crap if you think anybody operates with a 1000% profit margin. In the furniture business we operated at 100-120%
You've been charging a fair markup. I know for a fact that Sears has a 1000% markup on their power hand tools. I know for a fact that WalMart pays 20 cents for a toy that they sell for $2. If you made that bet about retail markup, you'd lose.
If a contractor did not to work for my price, I found another.
Exactly what WalMart did and continues to do, without regard for survivability of the vendor. They now purchase from China. We were told that "This is our final price. Either cut your costs or we'll go someplace else". My company laid us all off, including engineering and manufacturing, and then finished the build using Mexican labor. Then they sold the company to a European firm and retired happy. Their employees found other work. What would I have to gain by making all of this up? It is WalMarts' predatory behavior that garners my hate. I did not wake up one morning and decide to blame WalMart for the Nation's woes.
You have inside knowledge about some business, but not all of them. I've been in the electronics engineering/manufacturing business for over 40 years, so I do have knowledge regarding many things you don't. I can demonstrate that theory if you like.
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