[Free State Four]

no offense, but I am tired of people calling this tin foil hat stuff. There is a reason that he is hiding this document. There is a reason he is hiding his college records. These reasons can not be innocent in nature at this point. You fall into the hands of the msnbc crowd by accepting their argument that this is nonsense.

And I appreciate your passion, but his mother was a US citizen, he probably was born in Hawaii, but if he wasn't born there, he is still a US citizen, even if you consider the whole "Hawaii was a territory" thing and the "he was born in Kenya " thing. It's a thin fence post to hang your hat on. Considering how he has inserted himself, do you really think that he could be ousted for the "birth certificate thing" in real politicks?

[LachlanMinnesota]

Yes, I do. If there is anyone willing to follow the law.

I hold out hope for the goodness in a sufficient number to come through and protect the defeatists among us.

[trtdenver]

You need to read more about it. How did he go to school in Indonesia? They had very specific laws about who could attend school. Keep reading my friend. How old was his mother when he was born? It is relevant. How did he get to Pakistan? It is relevant. And on and on and on.

[1_Rain_Drop]

We don't need to see his birth certificate. It's just a technicality, paper proof.

Even if barry was born in Hawaii, he's still a usurper. His father (IF he actually was Obama Sr) never was a US citizen or even an immigrant. BOTH parents need to be US citizens in order for anyone to be President.