California Proposition 8 ruling: PROP 8 UPHELD (faux marriages to remain)

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[CounterCounterCulture]

The California Supreme Court rules to UPHOLD Proposition 8 (which put into the California state constitution that marriage is defined as being between a man and woman)

The court also ruled on the validation of the pseudo-marriages performed before passage of Prop 8.

[east1234]

They think it sucks

[Ultra Sonic 007]

I think their approach was that the homosexual marriages prior to Prop 8 were still valid because otherwise Prop 8 acts as an ex post facto law.

Which is unconstitutional.

Just a hunch.

[Smogger]

SAN FRANCISCO - California’s highest court on Tuesday upheld the state’s gay-marriage ban but allowed existing same-sex marriages to stand.

The California Supreme Court handed down its decision in a series of lawsuits seeking to overturn November’s Proposition 8. Gay-rights advocates maintain the ballot measure so dramatically revised the state constitution’s equal protection clause that it needed the Legislature’s approval before it could be put to voters.

The seven-member court upheld the initiative as a constitutional expression of the electorate’s will, but also decided to sustain the marriages of an estimated 18,000 gay couples who wed before the measure passed with 52 percent of the vote.

—AP

[longtermmemmory]

San Francesco must be throwing a hissy fit.

[mrsmel]

I'm afraid I disagree with you. The left never concedes until they accomplish the goal they set out to win. Mrs Thatcher called it the "ratchet effect"--the right never corrects moves to the left as far they've gone, they only temporarily turn them back just a bit. When the left has the power again, they just pick up where they left off. In all the decades sense the left has held real power in this country-I'd say around the time of FDR-this country has lurched ever more to the left. Even President Reagan couldn't completely correct the course. Who thinks we are more to the right since FDR? Government only grows, even under Republican administration, rather than ever shrinking. The rats keep moving more to the left (openly), and the Republican party moves more to the left as a reaction, in order to merely appear "centrist".

[Gay State Conservative]

I really think they deliberately upheld the existing “marriages” to give the queers something on which to base “precedence” when they contest this further.

Where do the pervs go? Is there a state court in CA that's higher than their Supreme Court? My hunch is that the decision they announced was as far as they could go and still avoid recall.I'll wager that they wanted to strike down the whole thing but settled for "half a loaf" so that both sides could claim *some* degree of victory.

[bigbob]

I see your point, but if you proceed from the view that marriage is between one man and one woman in the first place, then morally at least, it’s always been wrong do do otherwise. But as you say, since a court previously said it was OK, I can see how they view this as a dilemma, and see fit to allow the existing gay marriages to stand.

[444Flyer]

They fought the law and the law won. WooHoo!

[CounterCounterCulture]

Faggot activists blocking streets in San Francisco (Van Ness)

[kellynla]

Well, it looks like the Supremes “ducked” on this issue by saying that the 18K homosexual marriages on the books are valid...

[mrsmel]

LOL, I think I understand you. I wonder if it’ll work better for them than it does for supporters of the Second Amendment (a real, actual, explicit amendment, though the left pretends otherwise).

[NinoFan]

Good decision. Not unexpected though. It was peetty clear from oral argument that the court would uphold prop 8, but keep the previous marriages intact.

[Aunt Polgara]

Has anyone heard yet what the vote was?

3 of the justices are up for retention in 2010, George, Moreno and Chin.

George and Moreno both voted for gay marriage the last time around.

[CounterCounterCulture]

Where do the pervs go?

The pervs will attempt to qualify a ballot initiative in an attempt to reverse the Prop 8 vote. The pervs will also continue to indoctrinate the children in our government schools and keep churning out "gay-friendly" voters.

[rwfromkansas]

I am not surprised they ruled that the existing marriages could remain.

If they ruled they couldn’t, you have a situation that is in effect creating an unconstitutional retroactive law.

It stinks, but those who got in before Prop 8 just got lucky.

[b4its2late]

Exactly what Byron York predicted would happen on Bill Bennett’s Morning in America this am.

[Jagdgewehr]

They are, as a matter of fact.

[CounterCounterCulture]

If they ruled they couldn’t, you have a situation that is in effect creating an unconstitutional retroactive law.

Yeah, it was highly unlikely the courts would reverse themselves in the situtation they themselves created by allowing "same-sex marriages" to take place.

[rwfromkansas]

If they were married when it was legal, why would that become void? I don’t like it either, but frankly, if they got in before Prop 8, just let them stay married. Undoing it all just would give more sympathy to the homo cause.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Exactly what Byron York predicted would happen on Bill Bennett’s Morning in America this am.

Yeah, pretty obvious they tried to appease as many as they possibly could.