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To: hosepipe; betty boop; MHGinTN
Even if there were any basis for the belief in pre-mortal existence, it would be irrelevant.

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. - John 3:5-7

And again,

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. – John 1:12-13

No matter how one envisions its origin, the life/soul/spirit of a man is doomed unless he is born again in the Spirit.

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. – Romans 8:9

And once he has been reborn in God, he is alive already with Christ in God and his previous life is dead.

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Colossians 3:3

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

It's not about us, where we came from, how we were made - it is about God. We cannot die, not because of who we are, but because of Who He IS.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. I and [my] Father are one. - John 10:27-30

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans 8:38-39

God's Name is I AM.

90 posted on 05/26/2009 9:49:48 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Whosoever
[ My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. I and [my] Father are one. - John 10:27-30 ]

Amen.. Including Adam and Eve.. Moses.. All the Prophets.. even the Apostles.. All men, faithful or not, rightfully belong to God.. Unless you mean only "christians" belong to Jesus.. Surely you don't mean that do you?.. God is rightful owner of this entire planet.. and everything on it..

The Father does not own some things and Jesus owns other things.. for they are both ONE.. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one with each other.. as far as I can determine..

92 posted on 05/26/2009 10:16:02 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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