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Charlotte Allen: Why I can't stand atheists
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 05/18/2009 | Charlotte Allen

Posted on 05/23/2009 12:15:01 PM PDT by rhema

I can't stand atheists — but it's not because they don't believe in God. It's because they're crashing bores.

Other people, most recently the British cultural critic Terry Eagleton in his new book "Faith, Reason, and Revolution," take to task such superstar nonbelievers as Oxford biologist Richard Dawkins ("The God Delusion") and political journalist Christopher Hitchens ("God Is Not Great") for indulging in a philosophically primitive opposition of faith and reason that assumes that if science can't prove something, it doesn't exist.

My problem with atheists is their tiresome — and way old — insistence that they are being oppressed and their fixation with the fine points of Christianity. What, did their Sunday school teachers flog their behinds with a Bible when they were kids?

Read Dawkins, or Hitchens, or the works of fellow atheists Sam Harris ("The End of Faith") and Daniel Dennett ("Breaking the Spell"), or visit an atheist Web site or blog (there are zillions of them, bearing such titles as "God Is for Suckers," "God Is Imaginary" and "God Is Pretend"), and your eyes will glaze over as you peruse — again and again — the obsessively tiny range of topics around which atheists circle like water in a drain.

First off, there's atheist victimology: Boohoo, everybody hates us 'cuz we don't believe in God.

Although a recent Pew Forum survey on religion found that 16 percent of Americans describe themselves as religiously unaffiliated, only 1.6 percent call themselves atheists, with another 2.4 percent weighing in as agnostics (a group despised as wishy-washy by atheists). You or I might attribute the low numbers to atheists' failure to win converts to their unbelief, but atheists say the problem is persecution so relentless that it drives tens of millions of God-deniers into a closet of feigned faith, like gays before Stonewall. In his online "Atheist Manifesto," Harris writes that "no person, whatever his or her qualifications, can seek public office in the United States without pretending to be certain that ... God exists."

The evidence? Antique clauses in the constitutions of six — count 'em — states barring atheists from office.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled such provisions unenforceable nearly 50 years ago, but that doesn't stop atheists from bewailing that they have to hide their Godlessness from friends, relatives, employers and potential dates. One representative of the pity-poor-me school of atheism, Kathleen Goodman, writing in January for the Chronicle of Higher Education, went so far as to promote affirmative action for atheists on college campuses: specially designated, college-subsidized "safe spaces" for them to express their views.

Maybe atheists wouldn't be so unpopular if they stopped beating the drum until the hide splits on their second-favorite topic: How stupid people are who believe in God.

This is a favorite Dawkins theme. In a recent interview with Trina Hoaks, the atheist blogger for the Examiner.com Web site, Dawkins described religious believers as follows: "They feel uneducated, which they are; often rather stupid, which they are; inferior, which they are; and paranoid about pointy-headed intellectuals from the East Coast looking down on them, which, with some justification, they do." Thanks, Richard!

Dennett likes to call atheists "the Brights," in contrast to everybody else, who obviously aren't so bright. In a 2006 essay describing his brush with death after a heart operation, Dennett wrote these thoughts about his religious friends who told him they were praying for his recovery: "Thanks, I appreciate it, but did you also sacrifice a goat?" With friends like Daniel Dennett, you don't need enemies.

Then there's P.Z. Myers, biology professor at the University of Minnesota's Morris campus, whose blog, Pharyngula, is supposedly about Myers' field, evolutionary biology, but is actually about his fanatical propensity to label religious believers as "idiots," "morons," "loony" or "imbecilic" in nearly every post. The university deactivated its link to Myers' blog in July after he posted a photo of a consecrated host from a Catholic Mass that he had pierced with a rusty nail and thrown into the garbage ("I hope Jesus' tetanus shots are up to date") in an effort to prove that Catholicism is bunk — or something.

Myers' blog exemplifies atheists' frenzied fascination with Christianity and the Bible. Atheist Web site after atheist Web site insists that Jesus either didn't exist or "was a jerk" (in the words of one blogger) because he didn't eliminate smallpox or world poverty. At the American Atheists Web site, a writer complains that God "set up" Adam and Eve, knowing in advance that they would eat the forbidden fruit. A blogger on A Is for Atheist has been going through the Bible chapter by chapter and verse by verse in order to prove its "insanity" (he or she had gotten up to the Book of Joshua when I last looked).

Another topic that atheists beat like the hammer on the anvil in the old Anacin commercials is Darwinism versus creationism. Maybe Darwin-o-mania stems from the fact that this year marks the bicentennial of Charles Darwin's birth in 1809, but haven't atheists heard that many religious people (including the late Pope John Paul II) don't have a problem with evolution but, rather, regard it as God's way of letting his living creation unfold? Furthermore, even if human nature as we know it is a matter of lucky adaptations, how exactly does that disprove the existence of God?

And then there's the question of why atheists are so intent on trying to prove that God not only doesn't exist but is evil to boot. Dawkins, writing in "The God Delusion," accuses the deity of being a "petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak" as well as a "misogynistic, homophobic, racist ... bully." If there is no God — and you'd be way beyond stupid to think differently — why does it matter whether he's good or evil?

The problem with atheists — and what makes them such excruciating snoozes — is that few of them are interested in making serious metaphysical or epistemological arguments against God's existence, or in taking on the serious arguments that theologians have made attempting to reconcile, say, God's omniscience with free will or God's goodness with human suffering. Atheists seem to assume that the whole idea of God is a ridiculous absurdity, the "flying spaghetti monster" of atheists' typically lame jokes. They think that lobbing a few Gaza-style rockets accusing God of failing to create a world more to their liking ("If there's a God, why aren't I rich?" "If there's a God, why didn't he give me two heads so I could sleep with one head while I get some work done with the other?") will suffice to knock down the entire edifice of belief.

What primarily seems to motivate atheists isn't rationalism but anger — anger that the world isn't perfect, that someone forced them to go to church as children, that the Bible contains apparent contradictions, that human beings can be hypocrites and commit crimes in the name of faith. The vitriol is extraordinary. Hitchens thinks that "religion spoils everything." Dawkins contends that raising one's offspring in one's religion constitutes child abuse. Harris argues that it "may be ethical to kill people" on the basis of their beliefs. The perennial atheist litigant Michael Newdow sued (unsuccessfully) to bar President Barack Obama from uttering the words "so help me God" when he took his oath of office.

What atheists don't seem to realize is that even for believers, faith is never easy in this world of injustice, pain and delusion. Even for believers, God exists just beyond the scrim of the senses. So, atheists, how about losing the tired sarcasm and boring self-pity and engaging believers seriously?

Charlotte Allen is the author of "The Human Christ: The Search for the Historical Jesus" and a contributing editor to the Minding the Campus Web site of the Manhattan Institute. She wrote this column for the Los Angeles Times.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: atheism; atheists; christianity; moralabsolutes; religion
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To: Westbrook
Jefferson never says he is anti-Christ.

That would seem to be true. As I said before, Jefferson seems to have revered the teachings of Jesus, but rejected many of the attributes that have been ascribed to him by his followers. That is why he wrote the Jefferson Bible which removed the miracles, the trinity, the resurrection, etc.

The notion that Jefferson would have denied rights to a person based on their being an atheist is preposterous. How would such a standard be applied? Who is going to be the determiner of who is a believer and who is not? I am sure there are even a few on this thread who would decide that my own views would disqualify me from even running for political office. Do you want someone else determining whether you are entitled to your rights based upon what you purport to, or are believed to, believe or not believe?

Finally, I would like to see the proof that atheists, as a whole, are actually less moral than the rest of us. True, the atheists has Stalin and Mao Tse Tung. On the other hand, those who believe in a god have (probably) most members of the mafia and most of the people confined to US prisons for violent crimes not to mention a legion of other unsavory individuals.

My point is not to elevate or denigrate one group or the other. I merely believe, like the founding fathers, that their must be no religious test applied to determining a citizen's rights

101 posted on 05/25/2009 5:23:17 PM PDT by cerberus
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To: cerberus

> The notion that Jefferson would have denied rights to a
> person based on their being an atheist is preposterous.

You have always needed to meet certain criteria to run for public office. It is only your right if you meet those criteria. Consider the dangers when we toss those criteria overboard. Now we have a Marxist Kenyan imposter acting as our president.

When Jefferson was president, you had to be a male property owner of at least 21 years of age just to vote, and US Senators were elected by the state legislatures.

More than a few times I have wished these things had not been amended out of the Constitution.

Requiring as a criterion that those aspiring to leadership owe obeisance to the Source of external, objective, transcendent, eternal Truth is no more a “religious test” than requiring that the POTUS be born on American soil is a “humanity test”.

Whether or not they are liars who profess that they submit to the “Laws of Nature and Nature’s God” will be revealed by the One who is honored by including Him in the process. By explicitly excluding Him, he has no hand in our doings, and, as Ben Franklin said in so many words, no kingdom can rise without the Hand of Providence to raise it.

But thank you for the polite, rational, and reasoned conversation. My compliments for your ability to remain focussed and personable while presenting an impassioned case. I very much admire that.


102 posted on 05/25/2009 7:43:14 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Westbrook
But thank you for the polite, rational, and reasoned conversation. My compliments for your ability to remain focussed and personable while presenting an impassioned case.

Likewise

103 posted on 05/25/2009 7:56:13 PM PDT by cerberus
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To: seowulf

You look at internet blogs and you would think they are most of the population. They are desperate to become relevant. For example, I posted a question in the Yahoo answers religion/spirituality section and 9 out of 10 responses were from virulent atheists.


104 posted on 06/13/2009 7:20:06 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Soothesayer
It seems to me many atheists are very insecure in their religious belief in Nothing.

Yes, to many atheists if not most, their views are religious otherwise why would they be trying to proselytize?

Their insecurity breeds a need in them for company. Whistling past the graveyard alone is not very appealing to them and they would like the illusion of strength in numbers. Of course strength of numbers against death is meaningless. Everyone eventually loses to death no matter how much company you have.

The nagging doubt in them that there may really be something beyond the grave makes them strike out at anyone who would remind them of that insecurity.

105 posted on 06/13/2009 7:37:17 AM PDT by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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