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From pot to "pole" tax: U.S. states seek economic help
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 5/22/09 | Lisa Lambert

Posted on 05/22/2009 4:48:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – From legalizing marijuana and then taxing it, to increasing death certificate fees and charging gentlemen's club patrons an extra $5 at the door, cash-strapped U.S. states and cities are rooting around for revenue in some unconventional places.

But even those able to scrounge up funds from untapped sources will likely still need federal help or traditional tax increases to recover from a 17-month recession that has dried up revenue, drained spending capabilities and nearly obliterated the usual last resort of borrowing.

Sin seems most ripe for the taxing in a list of proposed revenue moves compiled by the National Conference of State Legislatures last month.

A California state legislator has proposed making marijuana legal and then charging a $50-per-ounce tax on it, along with the state's sales tax. Oregon has considered levying a $98-per-ounce duty on its legal medical marijuana.

Pornography, too, may have to shoulder part of the financial burden of some states. California lawmakers have proposed increasing sales taxes on sexually explicit content, while Virginia will soon start taxing hotel movie rentals.

Connecticut may reduce the commissions to those who sell lottery tickets and New Jersey could take unclaimed slot machine winnings.

Georgia lawmakers call the $5 fee they could charge customers at erotic dancer bars a "pole tax."

"Many of these kinds of things that they do at the state level raise modest levels of money," said Donald Boyd, senior fellow at the Nelson A. Rockefeller Institute of Government. "They want to avoid raising the marquee taxes."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economic; ncsl; states; tax
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1 posted on 05/22/2009 4:48:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Why is it there is no mention of reduced spending as a solution.


2 posted on 05/22/2009 4:51:01 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: pacpam

That would be a sin, 5 dollars please. :-)


3 posted on 05/22/2009 4:52:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge
That would be a sin, 5 dollars please. :-)

Sounds like they're selling indulgences.
4 posted on 05/22/2009 4:54:22 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: NormsRevenge
...a 17-month recession...

17 month? Where did that come from? We didn't see negative growth in the US GDP until the last quarter, 2008.

5 posted on 05/22/2009 4:57:47 PM PDT by meyer (Obama is to the USA as Mugabe is to Zimbabwe.)
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To: NormsRevenge

There’s a big ‘Click It or Ticket’ campaign going on this weekend in Wisconsin and, most likely, other Nanny States.

If the cops pull you over for any infraction, they can also nail you for not wearing your seatbelt.

It’s going to be a Cash-Cow Free For All this weekend, so if you’re driving anywhere and want to be defiant, take some extra cash with you. ;)


6 posted on 05/22/2009 4:57:48 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: NormsRevenge
A California state legislator has proposed making marijuana legal and then charging a $50-per-ounce tax on it, along with the state's sales tax. Oregon has considered levying a $98-per-ounce duty on its legal medical marijuana.

With taxes like that, they will see no revenue. Pot will stay "underground", as it's cheaper than the tax. Don't politicians ever learn? Try taxing aspirin at $40 a bottle and see what happens.

7 posted on 05/22/2009 4:58:02 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: LearsFool

Hmm,, gubamint is a religion to some..


8 posted on 05/22/2009 4:58:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I read the whole article and nowhere did I find any mention about raising death certificate fees, except in the first line.

Go ahead, raise the fee, what if no one paid it? After all, the dead isn;t going to pay anything--the estate doesn;t have to--what if the estate doesn't want a death certificate? All of them, stealing the pennies from your eyes....jeez

9 posted on 05/22/2009 5:00:17 PM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: pacpam
"Why is it there is no mention of reduced spending as a solution."

Because the political groups that push legalization for their vices do lie. Lying is a consequence of addictions. Without big government to clean up and cover up after addicts and their slavery, their vices cannot continue to be legal.

Tancredo Says It's Time To Legalize Drugs; Former Congressman Says Drug War Lost
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2256098/posts

There's nothing conservative about organized/legalized crime or the lying politicians used by favored constituents to legalize vices. Consider the fact that the popular candidates have little or no voting records. One was a member of the CFR and advised the State Dept. against needed defense measures (for the sake of continuing cheap freight fuel and cheap imports). Another said that she believes that much more spending is needed for public education, and she's obviously a libertarian.

We can't have fiscal conservatism without moral conservatism.

You're seeing yet another destructive fight against conservative politics in our USA. While seeing through the lies of all of the popular candidates, I'm going to continue to be nonpolitical for a long time, because I'm a conservative without a party.


10 posted on 05/22/2009 5:03:25 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I see ‘Click It or Ticket’ on all over out here too..

I am staying off the roads and in the pool myself. Hopefully we break 80.. and then 1100 miles of racing.. (eyes glazed over) :-)


11 posted on 05/22/2009 5:05:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Keep on spendin’!


12 posted on 05/22/2009 5:09:27 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Spay or Neuter your liberal today!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I actually have Saturday off! My second Saturday off in THREE YEARS! Wa-hoo!

Husband is taking me out to breakfast, then we’re hitting a Farmer’s Market, then we’re going on a Farm & Fleet run.

Matt & Ross Kenseth!

http://www.farmandfleet.com/homes/kenseth.aspx

I’m so EXCITED to be out in the world on a Saturday, I can’t begin to tell you, LOL!


13 posted on 05/22/2009 5:09:39 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Cool! Congrats and Enjoy!


14 posted on 05/22/2009 5:11:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: NormsRevenge
From pot to "pole" tax: U.S. states seek economic help

U.S. states seek tax help from economic Pol Pot

Fixed it.

15 posted on 05/22/2009 5:12:05 PM PDT by americanophile (There's science, logic, reason; there's thought verified by experience & then there's California)
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I'm not a big fan of taxing everything that moves but here in NYC it's an open secret that almost all small immigrant businesses cheat on their sales tax revenue. The Korean, Indian, Hispanic, Chinese and most other small neighborhood stores deal almost exclusively in cash and it's no secret that most of that cash is squirreled away in safe deposit boxes, overseas accounts of just kept in the home.
I have no idea how much the sales taxes they don't report are worth but I'd be willing to bet it's a huge amount and an amount that has to be made up on the backs of people who can least afford it..
16 posted on 05/22/2009 5:39:50 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: familyop

“We can’t have fiscal conservatism without moral conservatism.”

I take it you have not read Dr. Milton Friedman.

Your definition of “moral conservatism” restrict personal freedom, which the esteemed professor and author linked closely to fiscal conservatism, to fiscal freedom.

Your “moral conservatism” restricts my freedoms, which pleases you, but not me.


17 posted on 05/22/2009 6:21:21 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: NormsRevenge

There is something States could do to increase revenue both for themselves and their cities, that would also protect their citizens, stimulate local businesses, and help alleviate some of the more unpleasant aspects of the economic depression.

Start issuing “scrip” currency, as a non-legal tender, complementary currency to the dollar. Even before there are is a severe downturn in the national economy, there are advantages that can be gained now by doing so.

To start with, it is a debt free and carefully controlled currency. Even if the dollar fluctuates wildly, scrip keeps its official rate. Prices on some items may be fixed, use of scrip is entirely voluntary, and in some cases, scrip loses 2% of its value automatically every month, to discourage hoarding. Exchange rate with the dollar is also set.

Scrip keeps trading going on in the marketplace, keeps local government functioning, even if that government is bankrupt of dollars. The State can issue scrip to the poor to buy food or see a doctor, if federal welfare collapses as a system.

Scrip encourages people to buy locally produced goods and services, because they cost less than imports. And people can spend whichever is the better currency. Because dollars are concentrated at the State government level, the State can purchase vital supplies not made in the State, such as pharmaceuticals.

In times of economic crisis, many homes will be foreclosed, and automobiles repossessed. Once the State has ownership of these, it can distribute them as needed, at a much lower scrip price.


18 posted on 05/22/2009 7:17:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: NormsRevenge
California lawmakers have proposed increasing sales taxes on sexually explicit content

Anyone who spends money on porn has failed at search-engine usage.

19 posted on 05/22/2009 7:20:42 PM PDT by humblegunner
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"Your “moral conservatism” restricts my freedoms, which pleases you, but not me."

The rights of many are being violated by slavers/dealers, pimps, officious criminals and addicts who are indulging in your libertine and un-American, anti-family, leftist/anarchist "freedoms." There's nothing conservative about what you wrongfully call your freedoms.


20 posted on 05/22/2009 8:53:35 PM PDT by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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