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Ida: the Real Story of this “Scientific Breakthrough”
AiG ^ | May 21, 2009

Posted on 05/21/2009 10:38:06 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

So-called “missing link” Ida hit the media in a major way on Monday of this week, with even search engine Google falling prey to the hype and modifying its search page banner to show Ida. We quickly responded with a full article, Ida: the Missing Link at Last?

Yet within a few hours of the unveiling of the fossil—coordinated to coincide with the publication of the scientific paper on Ida—some better media outlets began to report some worrying things about the research. It seems as though the scientific process had been rushed and the claims exaggerated in a bid to promote a new documentary and book on the fossil. Sadly, media pressures sometimes trump full research integrity (something we’ve seen before), and careless media sources reprint explosive (and unjustified) quotations without consulting as many scientists as they should. Thankfully, though, many in the scientific community are questioning the research and beginning to become more vocal about their concerns regarding how good science and media aren’t the best mix.

But don’t just take our word for it—read these amazing excerpts that reveal the Ida hype for what it truly is...

(Excerpt) Read more at answersingenesis.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: creation; darwiniusmasillae; evolution; goodgodimnutz; ida; intelligentdesign
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To: GodGunsGuts
Nah...don’t worry, I brought plenty of bug spray

Enjoy your poison.

101 posted on 05/21/2009 8:18:54 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
If you believe a supernatural force protects you, an atheist or not-particularly-religious person would likely call that a belief in the occult, while a fundamentalist Christian would call it an angel. Same belief, but one gets put down as "belief in the occult" and the other doesn't.

Not the same belief. Not at all.

And some unhinged people think Hitler was a Christian merely because he quoted scripture at Nurmenberg too.

102 posted on 05/21/2009 8:29:02 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


103 posted on 05/21/2009 8:30:21 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Misterioso

[[Spell check?]]

No thakns I’m full- just ate- but thanks for the offer


104 posted on 05/21/2009 8:36:54 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: tacticalogic
Chill, dude. You're being played. If you get mad, he gets what he wants.

Thanks. Within 10 minutes of writing that, I wished for a way to delete or at least reword it. I don't usually talk to people that way.

105 posted on 05/21/2009 8:53:46 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: GodGunsGuts
I didn’t say all Evos. I said Evo-atheists. Learn how to read.

You're right, you did. So some fraction of a tiny percent of those surveyed are more superstitious than Bible believers, at least as the survey defines "superstitious." I guess you're not talking about anybody here, and you've acknowledged that you're not talking about "evos" in general, so I won't take it personally.

106 posted on 05/21/2009 8:59:48 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Oh please, please, take it personally, please!


107 posted on 05/21/2009 9:06:29 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

PS Are there atheists these days who are not Evos?


108 posted on 05/21/2009 9:16:46 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: tacticalogic

Time for you to fish or cut bait!


109 posted on 05/21/2009 9:20:03 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Oh please, please, take it personally, please!

Why would I, since it doesn't apply to me?

PS Are there atheists these days who are not Evos?

I have no idea. It would be interesting to hear from some young-earth atheists, wouldn't it?

110 posted on 05/21/2009 9:25:45 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

==Why would I, since it doesn’t apply to me?

I was just kidding, as in “Ha Ha Evolution Is Very Logical” d:op

==I have no idea. It would be interesting to hear from some young-earth atheists, wouldn’t it?

That would require that atheists stop being irrational :o)


111 posted on 05/21/2009 9:34:32 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
You really should ask yourself why you feel compelled to beg that....

I am not begging for anything. Never mind feeling compelled to beg for anything. You are beginning to sound like Keith Olbermann.

112 posted on 05/21/2009 10:04:38 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (I don't trust Obama with my country. Do you?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I was just kidding, as in “Ha Ha Evolution Is Very Logical” d:op

Got it. I misread you--tone doesn't always come through in plain text.

113 posted on 05/21/2009 10:16:38 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Misterioso

So your interpretation of the survey seems to be that those who say they believe those other things don’t belong to atheism because they don’t adhere to it’s religious tenets.


114 posted on 05/21/2009 10:48:06 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

[[Got it. I misread you—tone doesn’t always come through in plain text.]]

I don’t like your tone young man


115 posted on 05/21/2009 11:17:13 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Maybe I don't see the results the way others do. "While 31% of people who never worship expressed strong belief in these things . . ." doesn't add up to their being atheists in my view. "Atheism" is being thrown around very loosely in this discussion, probably because atheists are seen by bible-holics as agents of Lucifer.
116 posted on 05/21/2009 11:56:03 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: GodGunsGuts
That would require that atheists stop being irrational :o)

I'm saving this one, GG.

117 posted on 05/22/2009 12:04:25 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso; Gordon Greene

==I’m saving this one, GG.

I’m GGG, not GG. You don’t want to mess with GG!


118 posted on 05/22/2009 12:10:27 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"...it's a jihad borne of emotional outbursts..."Aint it just!
119 posted on 05/22/2009 12:27:30 AM PDT by mitch5501 (Yeah,but is it shatterproof?)
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To: Jeff Gordon

I think GGG sounds like Jim Jones.


120 posted on 05/22/2009 12:47:49 AM PDT by Wacka
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