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To: FourtySeven; Darwins Revenge

Neither point 10 or 15 in that long post speaks to the lack of fossil evidence of an evolutionary path from sufficiently complex species to another sufficiently complex species through single (or otherwise probable) mutations. What I need to see is a chain of species S1, S2, Sn, where S1 is not the same species as Sn, yet for every q Sq+1 is a mutated direct descendant of Sq.

It is true that should the evolutionary hypothesis be ever proven, it will in no way take God as the Primary Designer out of the equation, and therefore will be fully compatible with Catholicism. Mine is not a theological argument. My point is simply that it has not be proven, and it cannot be proven by discovery of new species, no matter what other species the new species resembles.

I agree that there are observations that indirectly corroborate the hypothesis. The creatures do look alike, and simple organisms do mutate to a distinct but separate variety, and if you wish you might call it species. On the other hand, in complex species we see stable distinct species and no productive mutations. Further, the scant observations that do corroborate the evolutionary hypothesis can also be explained without it.


93 posted on 05/20/2009 12:09:34 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Alright, as far as I'm concerned you have the last word here, but I would just like to make this as clear as possible for anyone reading.

This...

Neither point 10 or 15 in that long post speaks to the lack of fossil evidence of an evolutionary path from sufficiently complex species to another sufficiently complex species through single (or otherwise probable) mutations. What I need to see is a chain of species S1, S2, Sn, where S1 is not the same species as Sn, yet for every q Sq+1 is a mutated direct descendant of Sq.

...is saying the same thing in so many words as this...

Even if a creationist does accept a fossil as transitional between two species, he or she may then insist on seeing other fossils intermediate between it and the first two. These frustrating requests can proceed ad infinitum and place an unreasonable burden on the always incomplete fossil record.

whether you realize it or not, with all due respect. And it was 10 and 14 I recommended you read for the "genetic" objections to evolution. Not 15.

But really the whole post is quite useful, even given its length.

94 posted on 05/20/2009 12:15:48 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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