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To: big black dog

Excellent article, but will fall on completely deaf ears of our friends on the left. BDS is alive and well, as letters to my local crap newspaper attest. One thing about lefties remains charmingly consistent; their complete and utter disregard for facts, logic, common sense, and reason.


2 posted on 05/20/2009 6:44:56 AM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: fleagle

And the left’s supply of “moral outrage” is bottomless. At least since the sixties, it’s their default position.


3 posted on 05/20/2009 6:53:18 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: fleagle

There was a time when I would get so irate seeing comments from the left regarding George Bush and Dick Cheney. Now I laugh at them, they are stewing in their hypocrisy.


6 posted on 05/20/2009 6:57:20 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: fleagle

“but will fall on completely deaf ears of our friends on the left.”

The far left is quite upset with BO. They are not happy.


7 posted on 05/20/2009 6:57:22 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: fleagle

And Then There Was Only Guantánamo . . . [Victor Davis Hanson]

With the Democratic no-go on Guantánamo (I’ll leave it to the better informed to ascertain the degree that the Democratic Congress came to the rescue of an embarrassed Obama administration and cut off funding for the shutdown to allow him an out with the now familiar excuse of “they did it — not me, who keeps promises”), I think we now have come to the end to the five-year left-wing attack theme of Bush “shredding the Constitution.”

Except for the introduction of euphemisms and a few new ballyhooed but largely meaningless protocols, there is no longer a Bush-did-it argument. The Patriot Act, wiretaps, e-mail intercepts, military tribunals, Predator drone attacks, Iraq, Afghanistan — and now Guantánamo — are officially no longer part of the demonic Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld nexus, but apparently collective legitimate anti-terrorism measures designed to thwart killers, and by agreement, after years of observance, of great utility in keeping us safe the last eight years.

Add in the Holder statements about Guantánamo in the 2002 interview, the Pelosi/Rockefeller/et al. waterboarding briefings, the need to consider torture in past statements by senators such as Schumer, and I think historians will now look back at these “dark years” as largely a collective, bipartisan effort.

All of which leaves us a final musing: If so, what was the hysteria of 2001-2008 about other than simple politics?

I doubt we get any more movies about ongoing renditions, redactions, any more Checkpoint-like novels, any more waterboarding skits and reenactments, any more late-night comedians doing their Bush tapped, intercepted, tortured, renditioned, tribunaled poor suspect X routines.

And I guess as well that the good old days of supposedly flushed Korans in Guantánamo and Omar the poor liberationist renditioned to Cairo are over. We are now in the age of a sober and judicious President Obama who circumspectly, if reluctantly and in anguish at the high cost, does what is necessary to keep us safe.

And we won’t see a brave young liberal senator, Obama-like, barnstorming the Iowa precincts blasting a presidency for trampling our values with the shame of Guantánamo, wiretaps, intercepts, renditions, military tribunals, Predators, Iraq, etc. That motif just dissolved — or rather, it never really existed.

It short, all the fury, the vicious slander, the self-righteous outbursts, the impassioned speeches from the floor, the “I accuse” op-eds by the usual moralistic pundits — all that turned out to be solely about politics, nothing more.


21 posted on 05/20/2009 7:38:26 AM PDT by roses of sharon (NOTRE DAMIAN: ABORTION, YES WE CAN!)
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To: fleagle

There are people here on FR who have BDS to such an extent it makes some liberals seem reasonable.


83 posted on 05/20/2009 11:52:55 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama - America's Elegabalus and Commodus combined)
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To: fleagle
but will fall on completely deaf ears of our friends on the left. BDS is alive and well

Unfortunately, it's not confined only to the left.

Sometimes I think BDS is worse here on FR.

92 posted on 05/20/2009 12:21:12 PM PDT by what's up
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To: fleagle

Amazing isn’t it? No mention of rendition continuing as a policy, increasing bailouts or expanded government spending, all items that the left criticized Bush for....


94 posted on 05/20/2009 12:33:40 PM PDT by misterrob (A society that burdens future generations with debt can not be considered moral or just)
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To: fleagle
One thing about lefties remains charmingly consistent; their complete and utter disregard for facts, logic, common sense, and reason.

Higher-brain functions, such as an ability to deal with facts, logic, common sense and reason, are atrophied, dessicated nubs in the liberal mind. Instead of facts and logic, you have ideology and indoctrination. Instead of common sense, you have emotion. Instead of reason, you have groupthink.

131 posted on 05/21/2009 9:25:10 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obamanation: an imploding administration headed by a clueless schmuck, with McCain as his Kowakian)
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