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Vatican: Obama seeks "common ground" on abortion
Associated Press ^ | May 18, 2009

Posted on 05/18/2009 1:48:22 PM PDT by Zakeet

The Vatican said Monday that President Barack Obama was clearly looking for some common ground with his speech at the University of Notre Dame about abortion.

The Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano said Obama's speech at the leading Catholic university on Sunday confirmed what he had said at a recent news conference — that signing the so-called Freedom of Choice Act in the U.S. Congress wasn't his highest legislative priority. The bill would protect a woman's right to have a child or end a pregnancy.

Obama's stance on the issue is that he supports abortion rights but says the procedure should be rare.

The article didn't mention the protest by dozens of U.S. Catholic bishops who denounced Notre Dame for honoring Obama because his abortion rights record clashes with fundamental church teaching.

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The Vatican has been open to Obama ever since his election, despite his record on abortion and support for embryonic stem-cell research, which the Vatican also opposes.

Pope Benedict XVI broke Vatican protocol the day after Obama was elected, sending a personal note of congratulations rather than wait to send an official telegram on inauguration day.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; agenda; appropaganda; bho44; bhoabortion; catholic; cult; notredame; obama; popeworshippers; second100days; weakapbs
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To: mockingbyrd

61 posted on 05/18/2009 2:43:33 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: Huskrrrr
How many Catholics would be left if all who supported abortion were excommunicated as called for in the Catechism? .

The same as there are now. Don't call yourself a Catholic if you can't follow the teachings of the Church.

62 posted on 05/18/2009 2:43:49 PM PDT by fellowpatriot
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To: All
Just don't get caught with this sticker on your bumper!

That earns you a contact by the FBI....

63 posted on 05/18/2009 2:47:17 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: Zakeet
From the speech at Notre Dame:

That's when we begin to say, “Maybe we won't agree on abortion, but we can still agree that this heart-wrenching decision for any woman is not made casually, it has both moral and spiritual dimensions.

So let us work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions, let's reduce unintended pregnancies. (Applause.) Let's make adoption more available. (Applause.) Let's provide care and support for women who do carry their children to term.
So, Obama acknowledges that Abortion is immoral on some level ...

... that we should make it less common ...

... and yet he supports it anyway.


                    Two-faced


64 posted on 05/18/2009 2:47:47 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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65 posted on 05/18/2009 2:48:59 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: Zakeet

I regret to see that official catholic leaders are more and more spouting useless PC bullshhhh....They are politicians not much reliable!
As a “catholic” i prefer to stay not too close and remain free on the political issues!


66 posted on 05/18/2009 2:51:50 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: lastchance

Exactly!


67 posted on 05/18/2009 2:52:22 PM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Zakeet

You all realize, I trust, that this article is from the ASSOCIATED PRESS, one of the most liberal publishers out there. I would like to see the original article in the Vatican newspaper. My guess is that this article has distorted the meaning of the Vatican’s newspaper.


68 posted on 05/18/2009 2:55:34 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: Never on my watch; lastchance
This is not a statement of the Pope.

All the article says to me is that Obama seeks common ground on abortion, not that the Vatican thinks a compromise is possible.

And I believe the article is another MSM attempt to screw with Catholics.

Exactly!

69 posted on 05/18/2009 2:56:59 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: kitkat

Here is the vatican website—

http://www.vatican.va/news_services/or/or_eng/index.html

the latest is dated “13 May 2009”

color me perplexed.


70 posted on 05/18/2009 3:00:19 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: Zakeet; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
Don't be to worrried about this. L’Osservatore Romano is a newspaper. It does not speak with the authority of the Vatican. This is NOT at all some proclamation of the Pope, a Cardinal or Bishop. Sadly though there are many liberals over there as well.

See and read what Archbishop Burke said on the matter, Friday May 8, 2009. His position is essentially the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court for the entire Church. He clearly condemned all attacks on innocent life and the invitation by ND. http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/may/09050819.html

71 posted on 05/18/2009 3:01:24 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: SunkenCiv; All
The Vatican said Monday that President Obama was clearly looking for some common ground ... about abortion.

Sure. Just as he was looking for common ground between opponents of embryonic stem cell research and parents of children with juvenile diabetes, just as he was looking for common ground between evangelical pastors and gay activists on HIV/AIDS, and just as he was looking for common ground between soldiers and lawyers on US national defense. / Sarc.

72 posted on 05/18/2009 3:06:02 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: wagglebee
Was going to ping you to this piece, but, see you found it all by your lonesome.

Wagglebee?
Exactly who is this Vatican, and how might one meet him/her/it?

I'm serious as a heart attack, I'd really like to know.

73 posted on 05/18/2009 3:09:26 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: reagandemocrat; kitkat

As far as I can tell the Vatican has not released as SINGLE press statement on ANYTHING since Friday.


74 posted on 05/18/2009 3:11:27 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Landru
Exactly who is this Vatican, and how might one meet him/her/it?

The Vatican is the Holy See and the Vatican HAS NOT made a press release on ANYTHING since Friday.

75 posted on 05/18/2009 3:12:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Zakeet; xcamel; Huskrrrr; pnh102; Unam Sanctam; Juan Medén; ensignbay; Cletus.D.Yokel; ...
Whoa! Waitaminnit. Associated Press is saying "The Vatican" said all this, when it's an article in "L'Osservatore Romano"?

Jeepers FReepers, people, use your heads.

Last week it was E.J. Dionne blathering on in the Washington Post about an article in "L'Osservatore Romano" about Obama's first 100 days, written by "Giuseppe Fiorentino" --- not the Pope or a Bishop or a priest or anything but a ... wait for it ... foreign affairs correspondant.

A lowly stringer to a daily newspaper which, while it does publish approved translations of official Church texts, otherwise operates as an independent newspaper whose masthead motto is Unicuique suum ("To each his own").

This is not the latest chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, my friends.

So now we've got AP referring to a "L'Osservatore Romano" unsigned editorial --- they don't even have ol' Giuseppe to quote --- and they're trying to pass it off a "Vatican policy"??

AP: ignorant or deliberate deceiver?

Probably both. Terry Mattingly over at "GetReligion" says you can always knock off 50 IQ points on any AP article about religion, because they're just so dumb: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

But I want to add that, there's also an agenda here, as broad as a barn door.

Has AP quoted the ACTUAL top Vatican official who HAS spoken out against Obama at Notre Dame? No? Archbishop Raymond Burke, the head of the Apostolic Signatura (roughly analogous to Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)? Don't remember seeing that one?

But now some unsigned editorial appears in a non-official daily newspaper, and bang, it's Vatican dogma?

Sheesh.

(Shakes head. Considers going outside to dig up some yummy worms from the leaf-lettuce bed.)

76 posted on 05/18/2009 3:13:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Illegitimi non carborundum.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Great post!


77 posted on 05/18/2009 3:16:03 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
"The Vatican is the Holy See..."

Ok, I see.
Will have to look this up, myself.

"...and the Vatican HAS NOT made a press release on ANYTHING since Friday."

Easy, wagglebee.
I am not the enemy, not even the opposition.
I'd like you to know that, publicly and personally.

I DID notice the *source* was The Associated Quislings, alright?
Known liars and deceivers, unparalleled.

Will rely on people, like you, to set whatever record there is straight.

78 posted on 05/18/2009 3:19:33 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thanks Mrs. Don-o,

Have you found the actual L'Osservatore Romano editorial that the AP is referring to? I couldn't.
79 posted on 05/18/2009 3:23:48 PM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Revolting cat!; wombtotomb; Houghton M.; massgopguy; dervish; Never on my watch; windsorknot; ...
Please see mine at #76.
80 posted on 05/18/2009 3:23:59 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Illegitimi non carborundum.)
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