Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Free speech is dead at Notre Dame
energypublisher.com ^ | May 17, 2009 | Mary Ann Kreitzer

Posted on 05/17/2009 9:41:29 PM PDT by kellynla

I just spoke by phone with a friend, Sonny Torres, who went to Notre Dame this weekend with his wife Karen to protest the university giving Obama an honorary degree and a platform for promoting his policies which include murdering unborn children. Neither of my friends had any intention of getting arrested, but the Lord apparently had other plans.

After six hours of joining in the protests off campus, Karen and Sonny left to begin their long ride back to Virginia. But they got turned around and pulled into the parking lot of a credit union bordering the university campus to get their bearings. As they did, they noticed a group of police cars gathering and officers putting up barricades which appeared to mark the route of the Obama motorcade. So Karen and Sonny got out and Karen pulled out her sign, a half posterboard sheet, that read, "Shame on Notre Dame!"

A few minutes later a police officer came over and told them they'd have to move back 50 feet from the road which they did even though others were standing closer. As they walked back with the officer, they objected to being singled out and asked why those walking on the sidewalk weren't being moved back. The officer spoke into his phone and a minute later they were surrounded by cops and Karen was summarily arrested, handcuffed, hauled off, and charged with criminal trespass.

In the meantime Sonny, still in the credit union parking lot, watched as a growing crowd gathered, one person carrying a sign that read, "We're proud of Notred Dame" and another with a sign praising Notre Dame president, Fr. Jenkins. Sonny went over to the officer who spoke to them originally and asked why Karen was arrested and these people weren't. The officer claimed Karen "was belligerant" (if you dare to ask a question, you're "belligerant") and then threatened Sonny with arrest as well.

Sonny stayed in the parking lot another fifteen minutes or so and watched the officer sit in his car twenty feet from a group of about 80 people not 50 feet from the street, not ten feet, but actually sitting and standing on the curb practically in the street itself. Apparently none of those who came to worship at the feet of the abortion president was trespassing even though they gathered in the same place, even closer to the street, on ground forbidden to my friends because of Karen's sign, an unwelcome form of speech.

After talking to Sonny, I called the jail and spoke to Deputy Vawastowski (Is she a polish Catholic?) who told me Karen was charged with criminal trespass and her bail was set at $250. She could not give me the statute under which Karen had been charged and said she had no other information, but it would be on the arresting officer's charge sheet.

Now, let's recap this and make everything perfectly clear. Approximately 100 people ended up milling around in the same area as my friends, some much closer to the street within the forbidden 50 foot zone. But the only individual singled out for arrest FOR TRESPASSING was a woman holding a sign that said, "Shame on Notre Dame!" Those bearing signs of approval were unmolested. If this isn't a first amendment violation and a case of false arrest I don't know what is.

The Department of Homeland Security may have pulled their "right-wing extremist" report, but it's clear that pro-lifers are in the sites of law enforcement who will use any pretext to shut them up and make sure the abortion president won't be embarrassed by their signs. The deputies in this case acted like little brownshirts I'm sad to say. (My brother is a retired police officer and one of my heroes. It pains me when I have to criticize law enforcement officers who abuse their authority.)

I hope when you read this you're as angry as I am and will call the jail and protest the false arrest of my friend Karen Torres. The number at the South Bend jail is 574-245-6518. Ask them why they didn't arrest any of the other 50-100 people in the same area who were obviously trespassing as well if my friend was. If you call, please be polite, but express your concern that Karen's was singled out, a clear violation of her right to free speech.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; bho44; bhocommencements; catholic; catholics; catholicuniversity; notredame; obama; prolife
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last
Mary Ann Kreitzer is a founder of the Catholic Media Coalition and blogs at Les Femmes-The Truth.
1 posted on 05/17/2009 9:41:29 PM PDT by kellynla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Salvation; NYer; narses; A.A. Cunningham

ping


2 posted on 05/17/2009 9:41:53 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

wow...scary


3 posted on 05/17/2009 9:44:42 PM PDT by RaiderRose (No thanks, Barry. You can keep the Change.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

1930’s Germany?


4 posted on 05/17/2009 9:45:26 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

More of the same to come.


5 posted on 05/17/2009 9:47:25 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Silly people, don’t you know free speech is only for hte left in today’s Union of Socialist States of Obamastan?

What next, parades with extra large photos and banners with the Bama’s likeness on them, with his Mussolini smirk?

Americ is dead, unless all of you are willing to stand up and change it.


6 posted on 05/17/2009 9:48:46 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
Free speech is dead at Notre Dame

So is good football.

7 posted on 05/17/2009 9:49:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2banana

1930’s Germany?
_________________________________

Yes. The “Censorship Doctrine” is comming and that will firm things up.


8 posted on 05/17/2009 9:50:05 PM PDT by unkus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

On a public sidewalk, someone may not carry a sign of dissent.

Criminal trespass of public walkways and streets.

Civil rights are dead at ND and other major universities. Especially well-known ones.

2 things to remember if ever you are stopped:
1) Always ask, “Am I under arrest?”
2) If so, no matter what is said to you, say, “I want a lawyer immediately afterwards.”

Say NOTHING else to the person detaining you. Absolutely nothing. At any time. Take no drinks. Nothing.


9 posted on 05/17/2009 9:50:14 PM PDT by combat_boots (The 5 Stages of Collapse: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/47157)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Makes you wonder who the cop voted for, doesn’t it.


10 posted on 05/17/2009 9:50:25 PM PDT by Beowulf9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: combat_boots

Good advice.


11 posted on 05/17/2009 9:53:16 PM PDT by unkus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
Free speech is dead at Notre Dame

So is good football.

The Holy Spirit has been quenched as well.

12 posted on 05/17/2009 9:53:51 PM PDT by uptoolate (Shhh. If you listen real hard, God is speaking to America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Beowulf9

“Makes you wonder who the cop voted for, doesn’t it.”

Sounds like a good basis for a civil liberties suit.


13 posted on 05/17/2009 9:55:30 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
The deputies in this case acted like little brownshirts I'm sad to say.

My best advise is, never trust the police. While there certainly are decent policemen, you can't tell the difference by looking.

14 posted on 05/17/2009 9:57:23 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Being private, ND can’t be sued for viewpoint discrimination in who it chooses to accuse of trespassing.

If the RCC wants to be something other than a joke, it needs to kick ND away like yesterday.


15 posted on 05/17/2009 9:59:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: unkus

Final quote should have come prior to ‘immediately.’

Those who detain people now are no longer under legal compulsion to be truthful. Any tactic, strategy or method can be used to coerce a statement.

I would also advise looking them straight in the eye and not getting on your knees. That might get you arrested for resisting. They don’t want you to look at them.

If you have ever watched TruTV shows that display law enforcement emptying entire clips into someone ‘for fear of their lives,’ you see law enforcement differently. The State is no longer out to protect the citizenry. It is out to crush it into submission.


16 posted on 05/17/2009 9:59:39 PM PDT by combat_boots (The 5 Stages of Collapse: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/47157)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Sola Veritas

If it had happened on non-ND land it would be a good basis for a suit. ND can invite or disinvite whoever it doggone pleases, something which most of us would endorse for private property. What we would not endorse, however, is that they can by any means escape the blowback.


17 posted on 05/17/2009 10:01:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

An old friend of Dr. Keyes’, George Johnson from Chicago, who I’m pretty sure is in his seventies, was there today. He also had no intention of being arrested. But, late in the day, he stepped a few feet onto the campus with the intention of congratulating a police officer on his professional conduct. A minute later he was being cuffed and hauled off to jail.


18 posted on 05/17/2009 10:10:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Independent Party - 'partisans only for the truth' - www.AIPNEWS.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DakotaRed
"What next, parades with extra large photos and banners with the Bama’s likeness on them, with his Mussolini smirk?

You have noticed that too. Glad I'm not the only one.


19 posted on 05/17/2009 10:11:30 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: LegendHasIt

His facial expressions are all too reminiscent of Mussolini’s.


20 posted on 05/17/2009 10:22:46 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson