[Moseley]

Our first problem is on agreeing who the ‘moderates’ are. We can’t even get a consensus on FR on that. Some still think Bush, Cheney & McCain are ‘conservatives’.

Well, we are somewhat to blame for this. Bush & McCain have called themselves conservatives. And we let them get away with it. Out of fear of getting Al Gore or John Kerry as worse alternatives, we bit our lip and said nothing. Of course the liberal "views media" (not "news media") wants to push both parties far to the Left, so they will call a liberal Republican conservative.

But conservatives stayed silent, out of fear we would get someone worse on the Democrat party side. So as liberals have masqueraded as conservatives, we did not stand up (as in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers") point and scream "NO!"

[AuntB]

“Well, we are somewhat to blame for this. Bush & McCain have called themselves conservatives. And we let them get away with it. Out of fear of getting Al Gore or John Kerry as worse alternatives, we bit our lip and said nothing.

But conservatives stayed silent, out of fear we would get someone worse on the Democrat party side. So as liberals have masqueraded as conservatives, we did not stand up (as in “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”) point and scream “NO!”

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Not all of us. I screamed ‘NO’ from the start of Bush’s ‘moderate’ leanings in his first primary and got slammed plenty for it. Today, on this forum the hero is Dick Cheney & his daughter Liz. Lots of folks saying he should run for prez. The late nite shows are STILL talking about him shooting his buddy in the face. They’d love it! And Liz...served as a senior adviser to the 2008 presidential campaign of Mitt Romney. Some of the same Romney haters are the ones extolling her greatness.
People don’t remember the facts for 3 days.