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Restraining Order Madness
The Fatherhood Coalition ^ | Feb. 17, 2000 | The Fatherhood Coalition

Posted on 05/17/2009 8:23:20 AM PDT by joeu01

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"Out of Order", a 2000 Chronicle (WCVB-TV) program, highlights the injustice faced by men and fathers due to the MGL 209a-type restraining orders in Massachusetts. Interviews of The Fatherhood Coalition leader Mark Charalambous, Harry Stewart, Dennis Watts and others.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: courts; domesticviolence; fathers; restrainingorders

1 posted on 05/17/2009 8:23:20 AM PDT by joeu01
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To: joeu01

IMHO, this is the direct result of liberalism. You get people with diseased minds in charge, and this is the result. My problem, again, is with the complicit police forces around the country (State, county, local) which are “just following orders” and enforcing these laws.

JoMa


2 posted on 05/17/2009 8:45:49 AM PDT by joma89
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To: joeu01
Never having been in this predicament I can't speak from personal experience.However,there are things I can say "from the sidelines',if you will.

1) "Domestic violence" *does* occur.I learned this during my 20 year stint on the staff of a big city ER.Sometimes the result isn't particularly bad.A cut...a bruise.Sometimes it's murder (I've seen it).These things clearly shouldn't happen.Not even the "minor" ones.Except in cases of self defense there's never a legitimate reason for a guy to physically harm a woman.

As a lifelong resident of the Gay State I can attest to the filthy,despicable mindset of all-too-many of this state's residents.I'm sure that at least *some* guys here are wronged...seriously wronged....by the states "protection" laws...particularly given the greed and venom of all-too-many women...and lawyers...here.That homosexual "victim's advocate" clearly believes that *all* men are beasts and that *all* women tell the truth regarding protection orders.

I think the (female) lawyer put it best....in at least some cases a request for a protection order is just a form of extortion by the woman and her lawyer.

Do at least some....and,most likely,*most*...women who request protection orders in this state truly have reason to fear their filthbag husbands/boyfriends? Of course. But not all do.But in Massachusetts,at least,there's not a damn thing that can be done because of the filthbag voters...and politicians...and judges of this state.

3 posted on 05/17/2009 9:08:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: joma89

The problem isnt with the Police per se. The last thing in the world you want is police deciding which laws they will ignore. The problem is squarely with the feminist pandering political leaders.

Every pound of blame we place on the police for the shameful treatment of fathers and men in domestic situations, relieves a politician of the guilt they bear.
With one small caveat, a police CHIEF is almost always a politician, not a cop.


4 posted on 05/17/2009 9:17:31 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: DesertRhino

The VAW act has made a cottage industry of harassing men and squeezing them. It is now routine to get a restraining order in most divorces. No one questions whether the women is telling the truth. It is extorsion and then that arrest stays on the victims record. It can destroy their chance of employment.
We’ve been thru this with a nephew. He finally ended up with custody of his kids, because his ex got convicted of fraud and theft. But without 20k in legal bills..he would have lost and been in jail himself.
The system is evil and destructive of families.
It also means that you must be very aggressive in dealing with a spose. Take action first. Put them in legal jeopardy any way you can. Dog eat Dog.


5 posted on 05/17/2009 9:35:40 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: DesertRhino

Although I see your point, exonerating complicit police officers completely is also not the right answer. A “few pounds of blame” should be directed at the police who “follow orders” in return for a paycheck while at the same time, a” few tons of blame” should be poured on those politicians.

Here is a link of interest:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Walter/paul101.htm

...and a clip from this link:

“BLIND OBEDIENCE and COMMUNITY POLICING

Marxism, Socialism and Fascism are not natural forms of governing. They can only exist by force. Both political philosophies require a Police State to survive. Police are used to oppress their own people who resist. Brainwashed enforcers have been selling their souls, for a paycheck, for centuries. Two thousand years ago Roman Centurions (cops), “following orders,” nailed Jesus to a cross. Dictators don’t do their own dirty work. They use ignorant fools who blindly follow their orders.

Today, honest and decent cops with a conscience are either fired or leave law enforcement because they cannot carry out the orders to abuse their fellow citizens. Have you noticed that majority of cops today have an elitist attitude and are becoming meaner and cold hearted? They look down on people, everyone is a potential criminal, considered guilty of something. They are serving and protecting an increasingly corrupt system.

Community Oriented Policing is a communist inspired system. It is designed for the police to know everything about you. Your business is “their business,” all in the name of stopping crime. The core effort of this program requires that neighbor’s spy on each other, reporting unusual behavior to their “neighborhood policeman.” All that information is entered into a national database, so Big Brother knows all and sees all. Grants Pass Police already have Community Policing program in place.”

Sincerely,

JoMa


6 posted on 05/17/2009 12:31:22 PM PDT by joma89
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