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The Five Stages of Collapse
Energy Bulletin ^ | Nov 11 2008 | by Dmitry Orlov

Posted on 05/16/2009 5:56:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: Lazamataz

Don’t be scurred.

Unless you see ZOMBIES

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What do you mean, “unless I see Zombies?” I’m already seeing them...they’re massing inside the WH!!!

And I’m still “scurred”


21 posted on 05/16/2009 6:20:12 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thank you, dear. :)


22 posted on 05/16/2009 6:20:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Atom Smasher
Aw hell.

Pass the shotgun.

23 posted on 05/16/2009 6:21:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: AnAmericanMother
First thing I noticed too.

Well, the second.

The first was the "peak oil" bullshit.

There is more oil or oil equivalents than the whole 6 billion can use in our lifetimes, even if everyone consumed like a US citizen, in the coal, natural gas, and shale oil deposits in North America.

And then we have the next-generation nuclear reactors which convert Thorium into fuel.

And he forgets the core of Christians in the US, and the self-reliant culture...we do not have a cultural history of 70 years of gulags and corrupt apparatichiks...at least outside of big cities in Blue States...

Cheers! Cheers!

24 posted on 05/16/2009 6:22:03 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Lazamataz

Find it later BTTT


26 posted on 05/16/2009 6:22:51 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (Browncoats Unite, Up the Independents. Down the Alliance.)
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To: Lazamataz

save for later


27 posted on 05/16/2009 6:23:03 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: Lazamataz

Aw hell.
Pass the shotgun

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Here baby!


28 posted on 05/16/2009 6:24:04 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: wolf24

Zombies are not edible unless pureed.


29 posted on 05/16/2009 6:24:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz

Very good read.


30 posted on 05/16/2009 6:26:01 PM PDT by AH_LiveRight
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To: Lazamataz
If all the culture we see is commercial culture, and all the society we see is consumer society, then the best we can do is walk away from it, and look for other people who are ready to do the same.

This is a highly debatable proposition. A native Russian observing the commercialization and generalization of American cultural values through these channels might be forgiven for his mistake, but he may, in fact, be very, very wrong on this point.

There is a set of "values of the forum" that is older than Babylon, and they aren't hard to detect in operation on the American scene -- putting prices on life, for example, as in the case of abortion, setting "limits" (triage and rationing, assisted-suicide debates, ethical proposals concerning passive and active euthanasia) to socialized medical care, and so on -- but many "commercial" values are in fact intrinsically American and reflect the commercial world's adaptation to American customers.

Ergo, the author's insistence that social and cultural collapse are imminent or underway, may be very much mistaken, particularly since evaluating his statement -- as well as making such a statement -- requires somehow standing apart from a social experiment which one is observing from inside the experimental vessel.

31 posted on 05/16/2009 6:27:28 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: wolf24
Zombie smoothie.... excellent!

I hereby coin the term ZOOMBIETM.

33 posted on 05/16/2009 6:30:03 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Well played.


34 posted on 05/16/2009 6:30:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz
Sorry.....

I sped read to here.."Aside from the big government programs, there is little available in the US to help those in need. Again, Americans make a big show of their philanthropy, but, compared to other developed countries, they are in fact quite stingy when it comes to helping those in need.

And quit...because I think that is a total lie.

Maybe I missed some of the authors good points...but IF he can't get that right...Why should I read more closely?

35 posted on 05/16/2009 6:31:49 PM PDT by Osage Orange (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. - Will Rodgers)
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To: Osage Orange
Clickenzee
36 posted on 05/16/2009 6:33:21 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz

The author has some good points. but he overlooks the fact that the US has lots of oil that we can drill for and in addition to oil we have coal which is a good energy source.

What happens when we can’t get parts for foreign machines - we make our own. Just like we used to. Americans were handy and still are.

Hopefully, we will have enough sense to band together as we did in the frontier days and keep the wheels turning.


37 posted on 05/16/2009 6:33:37 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: Lazamataz
Excellent read.
39 posted on 05/16/2009 6:35:45 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Economic collapse is certainly underway. Complete financial collapse has been temporarily slowed down due to the massive printing of money and the seeming willingness of virtually every other country including China. I don’t think the author counted upon the virtual destruction of fiat currencies by every in the world. The question is how will the country stay together when the dollar becomes worthless or nearly worthless. If you listen to Gerald Celente he is predicting that our cities will become mini-Mexico Cities with daily kidnappings, out of control crime etc. Its hard to fathom such a situation in the USA, but our system has become more and more fragile.


40 posted on 05/16/2009 6:36:05 PM PDT by appeal2
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